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Juventino[RUS]

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John 13:34-35
34"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35"By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."

Mark 12:29-33
29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
32And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
33And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.

And million other examples in the New Testament. Read the whole Bible and you'll get the difference between New Testament and Old one, pre-Jesus and post.
Should i remind you how many people died because of the flood that god sent in the bible? it's around 20 millions, just imagine if you now will send the whole australia under the sea

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Nothing new. Biggest irony, atheists and commies call religious bigot but they are much more intolerant. Atheism evolution to a religion is undeniable.
http://freethinker.co.uk/features/atheists-are-more-intelligent-than-religious-people/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dismiss-religion-irrational-unscientific.html
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/422665/Atheists-are-smarter
http://rt.com/news/atheists-more-intelligent-religious-433/

We are smarter than you, believers, deal with it


And what the point of ur quotes of the famous person's if ur own HOLY fucking book said that you should kill those who don't believe in allah? Rewrite ur book, remove this shit about women, slaves, holy wars, jihad, but you are too scared, all of you are too scared
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Juventino[RUS];4383688 said:
Should i remind you how many people died because of the flood that god sent in the bible? it's around 20 millions, just imagine if you now will send the whole australia under the sea

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http://freethinker.co.uk/features/atheists-are-more-intelligent-than-religious-people/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dismiss-religion-irrational-unscientific.html
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/422665/Atheists-are-smarter
http://rt.com/news/atheists-more-intelligent-religious-433/

We are smarter than you, believers, deal with it


And what the point of ur quotes of the famous person's if ur own HOLY fucking book said that you should kill those who don't believe in allah? Rewrite ur book, remove this shit about women, slaves, holy wars, jihad, but you are too scared, all of you are too scared
I love how you just flatout ignored this post

http://forum.juventuz.org/threads/3...freedom-quot?p=4383642&viewfull=1#post4383642

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I've never seen such a person so incapable of inward looking
 

pitbull

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His point was to show that god didn't always preach about love and peace. Besides, isn't Yahweh supposed to be unchanging?
God is rightful, he isn't all about love and peace, sin deserves punishment, what explains some of the "brutalities" in Old Testament. What Jesus changed is that he payed for the sins, received the punishment. Linebreak is right that true Christianity should be about bringing light and love to the world.

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His point was to show that god didn't always preach about love and peace. Besides, isn't Yahweh supposed to be unchanging?
God is rightful, he isn't all about love and peace, sin deserves punishment, what explains some of the "brutalities" in Old Testament. What Jesus changed is that he payed for the sins, received the punishment. Linebreak is right that true Christianity should be about bringing light and love to the world.
 

Juventino[RUS]

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I love how you just flatout ignored this post

http://forum.juventuz.org/threads/3...freedom-quot?p=4383642&viewfull=1#post4383642

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I've never seen such a person so incapable of inward looking
Are you blind or something? Look at he last paragraph :rofl:

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God is rightful, he isn't all about love and peace, sin deserves punishment, what explains some of the "brutalities" in Old Testament. What Jesus changed is that he payed for the sins, received the punishment. Linebreak is right that true Christianity should be about bringing light and love to the world.

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God is rightful, he isn't all about love and peace, sin deserves punishment, what explains some of the "brutalities" in Old Testament. What Jesus changed is that he payed for the sins, received the punishment. Linebreak is right that true Christianity should be about bringing light and love to the world.
And if i don't sin then Jesus died in vain? :lol:
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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Juventino[RUS];4383688 said:
Should i remind you how many people died because of the flood that god sent in the bible? it's around 20 millions, just imagine if you now will send the whole australia under the sea
By God rules those 20 million or whatever deserved what they got.

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Juventino[RUS];4383746 said:
Are you blind or something? Look at he last paragraph :rofl:

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And if i don't sin then Jesus died in vain? :lol:
He died for your sins. If you don't sin (but everyone does, Romans letter) he didn't die for your sin. Logic son.
 

Juventino[RUS]

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By God rules those 20 million or whatever deserved what they got.
Do you realize because of which factor tsunami can begin?? Do you realize that a woman can't become pregnant without impregnation?? Do you remember that Jesus's father has killed chilrden who are poorly refers to Jesus and he asked for it by himself btw?? Do you realize that you and any other human being can't resurrect??

Fucking believers :rofl: it's 21st century and yet they are believe in fairytales
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
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When it comes to religion in particular, if you read the orthodox viewpoint of any of the major world religions, it's all about compassion, preferring others to yourself, disciplining yourself to keep your desires in check, helping the sick and needy, giving in charity, so on and so forth. And if you read about the lives of the major names in these religions, you will realise that they were real life living examples of these ideals. If there is something wrong with these ideals, which all major world religions share, then there's something wrong with the person making the false claims against religion.
You clearly haven't read the old testament.
 
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God is rightful, he isn't all about love and peace, sin deserves punishment, what explains some of the "brutalities" in Old Testament. What Jesus changed is that he payed for the sins, received the punishment. Linebreak is right that true Christianity should be about bringing light and love to the world.
God is rightful? How do you know that?
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Juventino[RUS];4383751 said:
Do you realize because of which factor tsunami can begin?? Do you realize that a woman can't become pregnant without impregnation?? Do you remember that Jesus's father has killed chilrden who are poorly refers to Jesus and he asked for it by himself btw?? Do you realize that you and any other human being can't resurrect??

Fucking believers :rofl: it's 21st century and yet they are believe in fairytales
so what proof do you have that stuff in the bible conclusively didn't happen?

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p.s. posting a rofl emoticon does not make you correct
 

Juventino[RUS]

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so what proof do you have that stuff in the bible conclusively didn't happen?

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p.s. posting a rofl emoticon does not make you correct
The Earth age according to science is 4.54 billion years, the earth age according to bible 5-6 thousand of years, how did science has proven it:
"This age is based on evidence from radiometric age dating of meteorite material and is consistent with the ages of the oldest-known terrestrial and lunar samples. Following the scientific revolution and the development of radiometric age dating, measurements of lead in uranium-rich minerals showed that some were in excess of a billion years old.
The oldest such minerals analyzed to date – small crystals of zircon from the Jack Hills of Western Australia – are at least 4.404 billion years old."

The science gave us this

The religion gave us nothing but wars
 

Raz

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Sheik, just put a youtube video of your cult hero and be done with.

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Juventino[RUS];4383846 said:
The science gave us this

The religion gave us nothing but wars
How the fuck did "the science" gave us earth, does it have some magical powers?
 

ZoSo

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Juventino[RUS];4383846 said:
The Earth age according to science is 4.54 billion years, the earth age according to bible 5-6 thousand of years, how did science has proven it:
"This age is based on evidence from radiometric age dating of meteorite material and is consistent with the ages of the oldest-known terrestrial and lunar samples. Following the scientific revolution and the development of radiometric age dating, measurements of lead in uranium-rich minerals showed that some were in excess of a billion years old.
The oldest such minerals analyzed to date – small crystals of zircon from the Jack Hills of Western Australia – are at least 4.404 billion years old."

The science gave us this

The religion gave us nothing but wars
you are basically just making over exaggerated radical posts that achieve nothing but further your image of stupidity and are probably the only one claiming that one side did everything while the other side did nothing. you are literally the equivalent of an al qaeda to atheism. religion gave nothing but wars is an extremely radical statement that basically lumps you in the same category as religious extremists.

proving the earth is 4 billion years old doesn't prove anything besides proving the earth is 4 billion years old. the bible is not supposed to be taken literally when it says 4000 years or whatever.

oh but wait rus reply:

'yeah but in bible says 4000 years old then now everything is false :rofl:'

oh yeah science did not create the earth btw
 
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