I hate jealous Totti (6 Viewers)

[sallyinzaghi]

I didn't care bout those four fingers or shushing, but his face just annoys me

and he acts all high and mighty against Juve (not that I blame him) but its still annoying

 

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[Fred]

i totaly agree with serges post.
IMO his post and Pauls are the only 2 posts that actually make sense in this thread.
no offence to anyone of course.

 

[baggio]

++ [ originally posted by Alex ] ++


Arrogance is arrogance, it's not justifiable.

Martin, its definitely part of the game. Arrogance is nothing more than confidence in your abilities. Its what people make of it.

 

[Martin]

It's part of the game yes, but it has nothing to do with how good you are. Arrogance on the part of a good player is no better than it is with a lousy player. The difference is that with good players, people still respect them and look up to them, they accept this negative element because these players are so unusual. But that doesn't mean their arrogance is any more appreciated. There is no excuse for it.

Having said that, I think we're all arrogant sometimes. I think it's in all of us.

 

[Layce Erayce]

he wasnt racist. and what exactly did tudor do?

 

[Majed]

++ [ originally posted by fred weasley ] ++
i totaly agree with serges post.
IMO his post and Pauls are the only 2 posts that actually make sense in this thread.
no offence to anyone of course.

i assume you read all posts then....

 

[Lilianna]

++ [ originally posted by Qaterminator ] ++


He said to Tudor something like ''Get lost'' after the Roma match

hm..that's bad but also....to tell the truth even though i hate totti too much myself,shows nothing that he is racist or something!

 

[Fred]

++ [ originally posted by Mjjoood ] ++


i assume you read all posts then....

and i assume you have a look at the posts that say DP is better than Totti...:groan:

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by Shadowfax ] ++
Hoori,

Can you please explain to me what is rascist about telling tudor to go home (yes that is all he said - shh.. Go Home)

How is that rascist and how come you dont mention how several players (but not totti) when asked about the incident said tudor insulted totti as he was walking across the pitch.

Do you actually know what rascist means... or are you jus trying to stir up some shit.... Personally i think totis response and gesture were spot on.

He could so easily of insulted him back or got physical as so many players do... but no he made a perfect gesture to shut the guy up.

Forza totti

Exactly, thats why I loved that moment.

 

[Lilianna]

tudor actually shouldn't even talk to totti...
totti is actually faaaaaaaaar better than tudor and i also don't see what those 2 guys have to share!

what's all this story "i insult ya" "you inslult me"

why???????

take a look at neddy.
gentleman.
when totti was talking shit about nedved winning balon d'or,
nedved said nothing and left totti even get ashamed in everyone's eyes.
in a "fight" it's not always eye for an eye....
let it go and then time will show who was right.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by Alex ] ++
It's part of the game yes, but it has nothing to do with how good you are. Arrogance on the part of a good player is no better than it is with a lousy player. The difference is that with good players, people still respect them and look up to them, they accept this negative element because these players are so unusual. But that doesn't mean their arrogance is any more appreciated. There is no excuse for it.

Having said that, I think we're all arrogant sometimes. I think it's in all of us.

ar·ro·gant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-gnt)
adj.

1. Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance.
2. Marked by or arising from a feeling or assumption of one's superiority toward others: an arrogant contempt for the weak. See Synonyms at proud.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=arrogant


Main Entry: ar·ro·gant
Pronunciation: -g&nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin arrogant-, arrogans, present participle of arrogare
1 : exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance in an overbearing manner <an arrogant official>
2 : proceeding from or characterized by arrogance <arrogant manners>
synonym see PROUD

http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=arrogant&x=0&y=0


proud ( P ) Pronunciation Key (proud)
adj. proud·er, proud·est

1. Feeling pleasurable satisfaction over an act, possession, quality, or relationship by which one measures one's stature or self-worth: proud of one's child; proud to serve one's country.
2. Occasioning or being a reason for pride: “On January 1, 1900, Americans and Europeans greeted the twentieth century in the proud and certain belief that the next hundred years would make all things possible” (W. Bruce Lincoln).
3. Feeling or showing justifiable self-respect.
4. Filled with or showing excessive self-esteem.
5. Of great dignity; honored: a proud name.
6. Majestic; magnificent: proud alpine peaks.
7. Spirited. Used of an animal: proud steeds.

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Main Entry: proud
Pronunciation: 'praud
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English prud, probably from Old French prod, prud, prou capable, good, valiant, from Late Latin prode advantage, advantageous, back-formation from Latin prodesse to be advantageous, from pro-, prod- for, in favor + esse to be -- more at PRO-, IS
1 : feeling or showing pride: as a : having or displaying excessive self-esteem b : much pleased : EXULTANT c : having proper self-respect
2 a : marked by stateliness : MAGNIFICENT b : giving reason for pride : GLORIOUS <the proudest moment in her life>
3 : VIGOROUS, SPIRITED <a proud steed>
4 chiefly British : raised above a surrounding area <a proud design on a stamp>
- proud·ly adverb
synonyms PROUD, ARROGANT, HAUGHTY, LORDLY, INSOLENT, OVERBEARING, SUPERCILIOUS, DISDAINFUL

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So why dont we call Totti proud instead of arrogant?

 

[Lilianna]

how can you love totti soooo much???

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by -Z- ] ++


So why dont we call Totti proud instead of arrogant?

because proud and arrogant are different and you know that and gray already explained you why.

 

[Zlatan]

They are almost the same, but one is used in a negative and the other in a positive context. Why if they symbolise the same thing. I say Totti is proud.

 

[Fred]

Ya i think you're right zlatan about Totti,he's proud not arrogant.

 

[Lilianna]

it's not bad to be self-confident. it's very good actually.

to have pride is very "dangerous" cause it can be good but can easily turn itno something bad if you have bad "control" of your pride.

but to be arrogant....that's alwayd bad.

now....i think totti himslef knows the best what is he

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by -Z- ] ++
They are almost the same, but one is used in a negative and the other in a positive context . Why if they symbolise the same thing. I say Totti is proud.

therefore they are no the same. cesare maldini is proud of his son paolo. roy keane's father goes to a pub, grabs his balls ans says: "these ae the balls that made roy keane." that's arrogant.

 

[Zlatan]

I agree with you there, but why is Totti's "arrogance" a bad thing?

Anyways, you have your PoV and I have mine

 

[flieeeekke]

naturally. and whats pov?

i never said that what totti did was bad. not class, disrespectful to others but not really bad. besides, tudor started the whole thing. you have a point, backed arrogance is sometimes useful, but i'm against it anyway.

 

[gray]

point of view