HipHop In 2008 (18 Viewers)
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Quit talking to me like I'm a little kid.
Secondly, I know all that. It just made me think about the term "real" which is slung around these days like it actually has some sort of meaning. I chose to think about what it meant to me. If you're unable to do that sort of thing.
You're definition is totally relative. There is no "real" regarding hip hop.
And I never said all hip hop is great. Merely that just because something doesn't hit home to me doesn't mean it's not good. Quit thinking so linear.
Secondly, I know all that. It just made me think about the term "real" which is slung around these days like it actually has some sort of meaning. I chose to think about what it meant to me. If you're unable to do that sort of thing.
You're definition is totally relative. There is no "real" regarding hip hop.
And I never said all hip hop is great. Merely that just because something doesn't hit home to me doesn't mean it's not good. Quit thinking so linear.
I remember when I was young and 2pac was my idol back in the days when I used to listen to Rap, fuck, if anyone dissed him, I'd start a fucking fight. He was just really influential and with all that mystery about him.
The whites fucked him up, the police fucked him up, the press (started east vs. west rumour) fucked him up, his best friend Biggie fucked him up, the crips fucked him up, and the lawmakers fucked him up. So finding his killer is a real big puzzle.
The whites fucked him up, the police fucked him up, the press (started east vs. west rumour) fucked him up, his best friend Biggie fucked him up, the crips fucked him up, and the lawmakers fucked him up. So finding his killer is a real big puzzle.
Don't put word in my mouth then. 
Never said anything about whether non-real equated poor. I just prefer old school and not this Lil Wayne type nonsense.
But I don't know anything about hip hop. Ask Rakim what the definition of real means.
It's not something that should be dissected that literally.
Never said anything about whether non-real equated poor. I just prefer old school and not this Lil Wayne type nonsense.But I don't know anything about hip hop. Ask Rakim what the definition of real means.
It's not something that should be dissected that literally.
You enjoy old school because it is "real" to you, for the same fact that you like football.
Why not elaborate on the definition of real? Otherwise you end up being some guy who just likes old school because it's real. When you define what "real" means to you, you come up with legitimate reasons which only help your argument. I know you're a straight line kind of guy and that's probably not your style, but it works with almost anything.
It's not like I'm being completely serious. It's just a mind exercise homie. I'm actually writing a paper on a book which condones eco terrorism and trying to decide the intent of the author. Whether it was just satire or literal. So I'm already on that level. Apologies for the confusion and or headache.
Just watching that video made me realise that I didn't listen to Pac in a while and I miss his music.
I always wanted to get a hold of one of those poetry books he has, but could never find any.
Some of my favourites:
How Long Will They Mourn Me*****<----- love this one
Brenda's Got A Baby
Pour Out A Little Liquor
Only God Can Judge Me
Shorty Wanna Be A Thug
Heaven Ain't Hard To Find
Krazy*****<----- love this one
Hellrazor
I have a lot more but this is taking too long.
I always wanted to get a hold of one of those poetry books he has, but could never find any.
Some of my favourites:
How Long Will They Mourn Me*****<----- love this one
Brenda's Got A Baby
Pour Out A Little Liquor
Only God Can Judge Me
Shorty Wanna Be A Thug
Heaven Ain't Hard To Find
Krazy*****<----- love this one
Hellrazor
I have a lot more but this is taking too long.
Don't put word in my mouth then. Never said anything about whether non-real equated poor. I just prefer old school and not this Lil Wayne type nonsense.
But I don't know anything about hip hop. Ask Rakim what the definition of real means.
It's not something that should be dissected that literally.
Never said anything about whether non-real equated poor. I just prefer old school and not this Lil Wayne type nonsense.But I don't know anything about hip hop. Ask Rakim what the definition of real means.
It's not something that should be dissected that literally.
He's better than Flo Rida or that Superman song kid.
That being said and accepted across the board, I just don't like him.
And if real is real, then Gang Starr stole the song "You Know My Steez"
Wow....well put.
No worries. :smile:
Using the word "real" in this context is probably bad form. As I already stated, I used the word more for slang purposes. But if I have to answer your question, I suppose I'd take one of the accepted definitions of the word to describe how I feel about the topic. "Genuine." Now, first off, what is genuine to one man might differ to another. Just like the reality of one person versus another. When I think about genuine hip hop, I think of the artists who were evolutionary; the people who laid the framework for other artists.
Such a task is obviously not easy to do. Being original and ground breaking in music is what stimulates our receptors in our ears and the transmitters to our brains. Being original in music just provides us with another outlet for entertainment. If we would have to listen to the same old stuff all the time, it wouldn't be very pleasant. And this is why I personally do not like some of the stuff out currently... it's not innovative and every single artist sounds the same. Present day is obviously nothing like the days where Gang Starr, Biggie, OutKast and KRS-One graced the mic. IMO, today we have a bunch of mindless drones who have boring, meaningless lyrics that do nothing except adhere to all the negative aspects of society.
When I listen to my favorite artists, my mind is stimulated. When I listen to stuff that is put out nowadays (commercialized rap that is all materialism), I just cannot find any value in it. If we talk about what is "real" to me, big chains, money tossed around the room, BMW's, Patron, club life and all the other products you hear in these latest tracks, are not a part of my life. These artists do not really add anything to my life.
But that's not to say I can't respect someone who lived a tough life but still makes music describing success, such as Big L. But again, he's true to his own situation, which makes him an artist true to himself. He was damn talented and innovative to boot, which really makes him, IMO, a true great.
I'm not sure if I answered your question, but it's a question that is difficult to answer. In reality it's all about what one enjoys (if they are not brainwashed, btw), even if it's not considered the most spectacular entity in a genre, class or league.
Using the word "real" in this context is probably bad form. As I already stated, I used the word more for slang purposes. But if I have to answer your question, I suppose I'd take one of the accepted definitions of the word to describe how I feel about the topic. "Genuine." Now, first off, what is genuine to one man might differ to another. Just like the reality of one person versus another. When I think about genuine hip hop, I think of the artists who were evolutionary; the people who laid the framework for other artists.
Such a task is obviously not easy to do. Being original and ground breaking in music is what stimulates our receptors in our ears and the transmitters to our brains. Being original in music just provides us with another outlet for entertainment. If we would have to listen to the same old stuff all the time, it wouldn't be very pleasant. And this is why I personally do not like some of the stuff out currently... it's not innovative and every single artist sounds the same. Present day is obviously nothing like the days where Gang Starr, Biggie, OutKast and KRS-One graced the mic. IMO, today we have a bunch of mindless drones who have boring, meaningless lyrics that do nothing except adhere to all the negative aspects of society.
When I listen to my favorite artists, my mind is stimulated. When I listen to stuff that is put out nowadays (commercialized rap that is all materialism), I just cannot find any value in it. If we talk about what is "real" to me, big chains, money tossed around the room, BMW's, Patron, club life and all the other products you hear in these latest tracks, are not a part of my life. These artists do not really add anything to my life.
But that's not to say I can't respect someone who lived a tough life but still makes music describing success, such as Big L. But again, he's true to his own situation, which makes him an artist true to himself. He was damn talented and innovative to boot, which really makes him, IMO, a true great.
I'm not sure if I answered your question, but it's a question that is difficult to answer. In reality it's all about what one enjoys (if they are not brainwashed, btw), even if it's not considered the most spectacular entity in a genre, class or league.
