Henry: selling him was a mistake? or not? (8 Viewers)

3pac

Alex Del Mexico
May 7, 2004
7,206
#21
Enron said:
Henry is the hardest player in europe. hes the 50 Cent of the EPL. Fucking mafioso he is:)

bro i have something for you. my friend and i just wrote the lyrics for the first song in our album "Henry Raps". its basically our rap about henry and what a thug he is in the EPL :D

its all rhymed/goes along with smoke dope and rap by andre nickatina
 

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3pac

Alex Del Mexico
May 7, 2004
7,206
#23
oh trust me, ill post it on here once its recorded

i would throw up the lyrics but i dont trust someone not to steal our beautiful piece of art :D
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,366
#25
Ramin said:
What about Pirlo? He was a nobody in Inter's reserve team, playing as a forward. But overall, Ancelotti is overrated.
Pirlo was not as young as Henry. He did not need to be followed and nurtured. He just changed his position, he just saw something in him that the others didn't see. Henry is totally different.
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
#26
Ancelottis style of play at juve was not helpful for strikers. under Ancelotti Henry was surly not gonna be what he is now. Lippi could have made him to a world class player
 

vippy84

Junior Member
Oct 22, 2005
121
#27
I agree... Lippi give young players more chance... that is what i like about him... he always give olivera chances but not under capello... capello only wants quality but very quality young player... anyway.. look at it this way... Henry is 28 and soon he will be 29 and in few years he will not be as good anymore coz of age... we'd rather get cassano who is still young... If i am to choose either henry or cassano, I think i will take cassano because we don't have to splash cash on striker anymore for a long time since we have zlatan, mutu and cassano who are young...and we can splash money on our aging defence instead...
Cassano will be cheap and Henry price will be sky roketting since he is at his prime and many clubs wants him.... :weee:
sounds good???
FORZA JUVE...
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
16,493
#28
Henry wouldnt be the player he is today if we never got rid of him. I agree we should have given him time because he was young when we had him. We should have been a little more patient. Its only looking bad for us purely cos hes turned out to be one of the best in the world. You can never tell whats going to happen. I cant remember any other player who left us turning into a world class player?
 

giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
#29
Good question Stephan!
I think it was not a mistake because we brought Trezeguet!!!
We sold Henry to a diferent league,so he can't play against us 2 times per season at least.
 

Espectro

The Grimreaper
Jul 12, 2002
14,565
#30
It was a mistake? probably

But for some reason I dont believe that Henry would have become the player that he is if he would have stay here in Juventus, when he move to Arsenal he became what he is. So for Juve was a mistake but for Henry it was the best.
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
#31
When Henry came to Juve he came as a left winger, hence why Ancelotti played him there. He didn't do well and was therefore sold. Wenger has done superbly by transforming Thierry into one of the best strikers in the world and deserves credit for that, but it was obvious that Henry was a talented player and that just makes me wonder what might have happened had we persevered with him.
 

Paolo Sosa

Senior Member
Nov 11, 2005
2,377
#32
Henry wouldn't achieve half what he is right now at Juve, simply becuase we don't have this kind of space to run in Calcio.

and i really hate it how we just keep moaning about players that already left, we r the best team in italy we don't need henry we create Henrys
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
#34
Stuart said:
When Henry came to Juve he came as a left winger, hence why Ancelotti played him there. He didn't do well and was therefore sold. Wenger has done superbly by transforming Thierry into one of the best strikers in the world and deserves credit for that, but it was obvious that Henry was a talented player and that just makes me wonder what might have happened had we persevered with him.
Henry came as left winger??:disagree: no no, he was a striker and he came as a striker to juve. it was the season where DP was injuired and we bought Henry and Esnaider as replacement. It was Ancillotti´s fantastic idea to make him on the left side in a 3-5-2 formation. this means he was suppose even to defend
 

Desmond

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
8,938
#35
I don't see how you could fully attribute his failure to make an impact here to his position. I don't think he was going to make it here with Juve, neither as a left winger nor as a forward. He'd be a success on the left wing at Arsenal as well, given his qualities. Probably not to the degree he is now, but a success nonetheless.

He couldn't cope with the defenses in Italy at the time when he was still developing his game, and many of his qualities were were allowed to shine through because of the weak backlines in the EPL.
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
#36
Desmond said:
I don't see how you could fully attribute his failure to make an impact here to his position. I don't think he was going to make it here with Juve, neither as a left winger nor as a forward. He'd be a success on the left wing at Arsenal as well, given his qualities. Probably not to the degree he is now, but a success nonetheless.

He couldn't cope with the defenses in Italy at the time when he was still developing his game, and many of his qualities were were allowed to shine through because of the weak backlines in the EPL.
you don´t really wanna convince me, that it is equal to play as a striker or a left "winger" in a 3-5-2 formation. I don´t say that Henry was gonna have the same impact at juve as a striker, but there are players who can not play in every positions. can Trez for example play as winger?
 

Hambon

Lion of the Desert
Apr 22, 2005
8,073
#37
Desmond said:
He couldn't cope with the defenses in Italy at the time when he was still developing his game, and many of his qualities were were allowed to shine through because of the weak backlines in the EPL.
True...Also its hard to forcast a players future abilities in whatever environment because there are just to many factors that decide their futures ...either they turn out great or rubbish its sometimes hard to tell
 

HelterSkelter

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2005
20,537
#38
henry hasnt shined with the french NT the way he's shined in the epl.
he failed in the serie A.
is a great player afterall?or is his magic only limited to the epl where defences are easy to penetrate?
 

Desmond

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
8,938
#40
Maresca said:
you don´t really wanna convince me, that it is equal to play as a striker or a left "winger" in a 3-5-2 formation. I don´t say that Henry was gonna have the same impact at juve as a striker, but there are players who can not play in every positions. can Trez for example play as winger?
Of course not. Henry however is not exclusively a finisher like Trezeguet is. He loves to drop deep in midfield and the left is indeed his preferred flank. For France over the years he has played left winger numerous times, and his qualities of pace, dribbling and crossing do make him a good left winger as he has proven, although it remains undisputed that he is at his best in the forward position.

He has been such a phenomenon in the EPL that IMO I can safely say that he would perform well even if played on the left wing, which is where he was played in Juve and failed.
 

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