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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Tuesdays I go heavy with back squats, lateral leg presses, and calf raises. Friday I do front squats but I go light. With both of these should I be doing something to isolate my hamstrings too, or does the squatting sufficiently work them?
Do you also do deadlifts or not ?

Hamstrings become usefull when you are doing less then 4 reps, to keep balance while descending, and to be able to keep you straight when ascending.
However, conventional deadlift is the main compound lift to train hamstrings, as they are part of the posterior chain
I've trained hamstrings for a year to lenghten them and strengthen them. But nowadays my schedule has plenty of hamstring work trough the various deadlift variations i do


The excercises most brutal for my hamstrings are the pauzed variants.


1) Deadlift to knee's with 2 second pauze before going back down
2) Pauzed squat, halfway on the way down
3) Pauzed deadlift, 5-7cm below the knee, to lockout


the "1+2x1/2" is even worse but a little tough to execute
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Tuesdays I go heavy with back squats, lateral leg presses, and calf raises. Friday I do front squats but I go light. With both of these should I be doing something to isolate my hamstrings too, or does the squatting sufficiently work them?
Depends. Are they giving you trouble? Do you feel them getting worked when you squat? Squats done properly are not a hamstrings exercise per se, but they do work them. As for isolating them and working them properly you have two easy options IMO: deadlifts and sprints. Both are hard and take a while to recover from, but they are by far the best hamstring developers out there..

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Do you also do deadlifts or not ?

Hamstrings become usefull when you are doing less then 4 reps, to keep balance while descending, and to be able to keep you straight when ascending.
However, conventional deadlift is the main compound lift to train hamstrings, as they are part of the posterior chain
I've trained hamstrings for a year to lenghten them and strengthen them. But nowadays my schedule has plenty of hamstring work trough the various deadlift variations i do


The excercises most brutal for my hamstrings are the pauzed variants.


1) Deadlift to knee's with 2 second pauze before going back down
2) Pauzed squat, halfway on the way down
3) Pauzed deadlift, 5-7cm below the knee, to lockout


the "1+2x1/2" is even worse but a little tough to execute
Can't really go wrong with deadlifting for hamstring development.. Personally I find truly isolating lifts like leg curls or glute ham raises a waste of time. The former is a weird unnatural movement, the latter feels liike your hamstring is going to rip off and is vastly overrated for strength purposes imo.

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I do box jumps quite often.

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FUCK! How can one contact him outside the forum? Does he have Facebook?

Googling german hipster is your best bet, but I assume that is going to give a million hits.
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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@ALC @Zacheryah @Seven

I deadlift too, tomorrow I do actually. I attempt to do HIIT for about 10 minute before my asthma tells me to die, so I guess that counts as sprinting? Would that be sufficient then? :D

Thanks guys
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Like Seven said. Do deadlift work for them.

You'll notice when your hamstrings are behind when your butt shoots up when lifting off at a more heavy lift, aka your hamstrings arent strong enough.

you can add isolation, like leg curl at that point. I hate that other one :D

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HITT is allways good afaik, but i'm not a cardio expert.

For me :

"cardio is doing more then 5 reps with squat"

"Cardio is loading plats"

:D
 

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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HITT is allways good afaik, but i'm not a cardio expert.

For me :

"cardio is doing more then 5 reps with squat"

"Cardio is loading plats"

:D
At the moment I'm using the uni'a strength and conditioning suite because the o-lifters have destroyed the floor in the fitness and conditioning suite. They're also letting the endurance running athletes use the strength suite which is an interesting mix of people, most of the lifters have t-shirts that say 'Running is for girls, stand your ground' etc. :D
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,351
@ALC @Zacheryah @Seven

I deadlift too, tomorrow I do actually. I attempt to do HIIT for about 10 minute before my asthma tells me to die, so I guess that counts as sprinting? Would that be sufficient then? :D

Thanks guys

No. For hamstring work I mean true, 100% all out sprints. Like 40 meter sprints (if you've never sprinted a lot in your life, you won't be able to sprint for 100 meter and most likely not for 60 either). I used to sprint a lot a couple of years and it does bulk you up a lot. You'll be surprisingly sore in your abs, arms and traps too.

All this being said, there are few people who lift a lot of weight and like to sprint. I bet a guy like @Zacheryah would have great difficulties sprinting: at some point the added mass will make it too hard to and painful to sprint.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Sprinting would be quite brutal on my achillies tendons.

I can take off pretty well, but not very long. Far to heavy for this

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I recently had to sprint about 300-400 meters to catch a bus and that went pretty well, and fast, but the thing is, i had pains in various parts of my legs as a result :D
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,351
Sprinting would be quite brutal on my achillies tendons.

I can take off pretty well, but not very long. Far to heavy for this

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I recently had to sprint about 300-400 meters to catch a bus and that went pretty well, and fast, but the thing is, i had pains in various parts of my legs as a result :D
Yeah, sprinting will do that for you. It is a great, and underestimated, leg exercise IMO. But obviously your legs will grow bigger with squats and deads, no doubt about that.
 

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