Gym and fitness (45 Viewers)

[Zacheryah]

Louie Simmons. Please. You lost pretty much all credibility you had. What next? Rippetoe? These are people who have defined their own squatting styles. They've engineered a style, away from a natural Olympic squat, in order to be able to lift more weight.

And there's nothing wrong with that, but there is something very wrong with what you're taking away from it.

I'd hardly say I am the one stirring controversy. If you read my posts, you'll see that I clearly say both squat styles have their advantages. You on the other hand are claiming some sort of weird superiority on part of the low bar squat, which makes no sense whatsoever.

Why the high bar squat would be less of a compound baffles me. It works the quads, glutes, hamstrings, back and abs. That's pretty much a compound exercise if you ask me.

I'm glad however that we both agree the deadlift is king.

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Look at this and tell me that:
- this guy has no glute development
- this doesn't look like a compound exercise
- there is no sense of inherent fluidity and thus safety in the way he's performing this exercise.

I see you list a front squat. I myself am quite the fan of frontsquat. Its an insanely good way to train the squat mechanic regardless of where you put the bar, without involving the back. As a powerlifter on sheiko schedules, i often have days that are like "front squats - bench - regular squats". Because this makes it heavy on the squats, but not nearly stressing the back enough, and teaches not to bend over to much naturally, wich occurs from soly doing low bar full squats

I named louie as an example. I'm not a fan of him. I'm a raw powerlifter. Tutchscherer and Sheiko are the trainers of reference.

I quite dislike how multiply powerlifting is tarnishing the squat with their 4 inch roms. Konstantinovs pulling 420kg deadlifts without a suit or even a belt, thats what i call impressive


I need to add an exception byw. Mikhael Koklyaev. Excellent olympic lifter. And later strongmen. And later powerlifter. And currently probably the best deadlifter in the world with a straight bar

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Lastly, during the steroid era of the 80s, O-lifters managed to lift competitively right into their late 30s, especially in the heavier weight classes. The problem for this isn't joint destruction though, it's more so what you first mentioned, flexibility, and diminishing returns from speed-strength training, the elasticity of the muscles has lessened, making it much harder to compete at a high level in an exercise that requires taking advantage of tissue viscoelasticity in order to succeed.

Deca durabolin is nothing short of a miracle worker when it comes to joints and ligaments. The key issue is beeing able to keep liquid inside the joint. Wich is natural at higher fat%, but significantly worse at the lower weight class.
Unless you are taking deca, wich borderline cures a destroyed joint as long as you are injecting it.

I've seen quite a few bodybuilders, who offcourse do everything with a bar wrong, with various degrees of joint issues. Who completely dissapeared as soon as the second half life of the deca they were injecting passed.


But yeah, flexibility and speed. The latter is also a killer for the more lightweight powerlifters it seems

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I squat high bar but I want to stop that shit and front squat instead.

Do you have the core and shoulders for front squats ?

I dont understand, what is the problem with high bar squats for you ?

 

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[Seven]

I squat high bar but I want to stop that shit and front squat instead.

If you hold the bar right, the front squat comes very naturally. I'd say that in terms of form it is probably the easiest to learn so if you want to do it, why not just do it?

 

[Zacheryah]

Remember to hold it like this

Spoiler

This puts minimum stress on the joints and doesnt require to have flexible triceps

 

[ALC]

I'm British, so I don't have a 'mom', red coat 4 life.

You're right, being British is bad enough, no need for me to crack jokes.

 

[JCK]

If you hold the bar right, the front squat comes very naturally. I'd say that in terms of form it is probably the easiest to learn so if you want to do it, why not just do it?

I will, my plan is to start front squatting just the next time it's turn to squat.

 

[Azzurri7]

Go to the local building of your religion, and pray you didnt strain the rotator cuff.

After doing that, apply ice periodically

 

[Seven]

Anyone here have any experience with anterior pelvic tilt? I'm doing hollow holds to try and correct mine, but I'm not sure if it's truly working. I got it from playing soccer, I always have very tight quads and even had two pretty big muscle tears of both recti femoris as a child.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Torn recti as a kid? That's so sad.

 

[Seven]

Torn recti as a kid? That's so sad.

It is if you can't walk.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

It is if you can't walk.

I wasn't belittling your injury btw

 

[Seven]

I wasn't belittling your injury btw

I know, man, no worries . It's not as if you never recover from it either .

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In any case, maybe overtraining is to blame. Any thoughts anyone?

 

[JCK]

Anyone here have any experience with anterior pelvic tilt? I'm doing hollow holds to try and correct mine, but I'm not sure if it's truly working. I got it from playing soccer, I always have very tight quads and even had two pretty big muscle tears of both recti femoris as a child.

Have you tried yoga? Slow process in the beginning but great benefits long term.

 

[Seven]

Have you tried yoga? Slow process in the beginning but great benefits long term.

Not yet. I wonder if it could help me relax though. I feel as if I have this problem because I'm too stressed out. And I don't mean stressed out work related, but physically.

 

[JCK]

Not yet. I wonder if it could help me relax though. I feel as if I have this problem because I'm too stressed out. And I don't mean stressed out work related, but physically.

Of course it will help you, I have been practicing regularly for the past two years and I can't describe the progress I have done both in how flexible I have become, the inner strength I gained and how much tension I have released physically. And mind you, I do lift heavy, I run and most of my workouts during the week are high intensity functional training. Yoga is like the opposite effect of all these and it helps more than you can imagine.

 

[Zacheryah]

i"ve spend a total of 9 months of injury with rotator cuff cause i benchpress the bodybuilding way. You dont want to injury the rotator cuff, believe me

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Guy curling 65 pounds in the squat rack. Why?

 

[Zacheryah]

Cause their biceps (aka the wank muscle that is totally irrelevant), is bigger then their chickenshit calves/quadriceps, so they think they are allowed to curl into the rack of men.

I tend to kindly reminds idiots, unless they can curl 150 pounds and above, they can fuck off to their mirrors

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Cause their biceps (aka the wank muscle that is totally irrelevant), is bigger then their chickenshit calves/quadriceps, so they think they are allowed to curl into the rack of men.

I tend to kindly reminds idiots, unless they can curl 150 pounds and above, they can fuck off to their mirrors

Are you against having a day to work biceps and triceps then?

 

[ALC]

It's not necessary. You're better off working chest and back twice a week instead.

If you're tight on time, and really want bigger arms, then fine. Nothing that wrong with it and in the beginning you'll gain some size out of it.

 

[Seven]

Cause their biceps (aka the wank muscle that is totally irrelevant), is bigger then their chickenshit calves/quadriceps, so they think they are allowed to curl into the rack of men.

I tend to kindly reminds idiots, unless they can curl 150 pounds and above, they can fuck off to their mirrors

Because people who can curl 150 pounds beat the shit out of everyone ?