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Zach, when I squat I was trained to do it feet pointing forward. I can't go real deep with my feet pointing forward because i lose balance, esp with 110kgs on my neck. I've noticed most of the guys point their feet out and go deep, I tried and I find it much easier to go deep in that position.
What's the deal? Straight or Feet pointing out? I've read that you can fuck your knees pointing then out but I want to go.deeper to push my quads harder.
What's the deal? Straight or Feet pointing out? I've read that you can fuck your knees pointing then out but I want to go.deeper to push my quads harder.
Alcohol is allways unhealthy, but so is breathing in oxygen. In your training classification, if you like to drink it, just do it.
You can totally do it, allmost everyone does it.
But at the same time , allmost everyone is unable to complete a Smolov routine, let alone a CMS tailored sheiko. Both cases you are consistantly pushing your recovery to its absolute limits. Especially Sheiko works with periods in wich you cannot have fully recovered in ideal situations.
You cant push recovery to its absolute limit when your liver is detoxing alcohol.
You are free to say you disagree tho. But if you search the web and find people who actually complete a full smolov, or are CMS athlete like me and are running the destructfull CMS sheiko cycle, you will find very very soon the following :
8-9 houres of sleep
1.5 - 2.0 g protein/kg bodyweight
absolutely no drugs or alcohol
at least 100g complex carbs the last 6 houres before training.
See, to progress at this level, you need extremely demanding schedules. You need your liver to be 100%. Hence, there are plenty who train natural and use products(N-acetyl cysteine, silymarin) roiders use to boost their liver, just to make sure its performing at its max
Your knees should be pointing out, in the same direction as the feet who should also point out. This enables you to have a better mechanic, and include the hip muscles .
You can totally do it, allmost everyone does it.
But at the same time , allmost everyone is unable to complete a Smolov routine, let alone a CMS tailored sheiko. Both cases you are consistantly pushing your recovery to its absolute limits. Especially Sheiko works with periods in wich you cannot have fully recovered in ideal situations.
You cant push recovery to its absolute limit when your liver is detoxing alcohol.
You are free to say you disagree tho. But if you search the web and find people who actually complete a full smolov, or are CMS athlete like me and are running the destructfull CMS sheiko cycle, you will find very very soon the following :
8-9 houres of sleep
1.5 - 2.0 g protein/kg bodyweight
absolutely no drugs or alcohol
at least 100g complex carbs the last 6 houres before training.
See, to progress at this level, you need extremely demanding schedules. You need your liver to be 100%. Hence, there are plenty who train natural and use products(N-acetyl cysteine, silymarin) roiders use to boost their liver, just to make sure its performing at its max
Your knees should be pointing out, in the same direction as the feet who should also point out. This enables you to have a better mechanic, and include the hip muscles .
Nothing wrong with high bar narrow stance. In fact it's the only way I can squat without hurting my hips and end up being debilitated. If you look at powerlifters who squat low bar wide stance, they are often injured as well.
As Poliquin (who seems annoying as fuck) says: by a low bar wide stance you take the legs out of the squat. And for a lot of people that makes little sense.
Squatting high is not necessarily wrong either, but can fuck up your knees and back. Personally I try to go as low as possible as it feels more natural and healthier to me.
It's not. Weightlifters only squat high bar and in fact it is a far more natural squat than a low bar squat. For me personally, and for a lot of other people too, it's also a safer squat. With less weight, I can go deeper and put more stress on my legs. The risk of injury decreases and it actually works the muscles I want it to work.
That being said I suspect the low bar squat just works really well for him and it would make no sense for him to change his style.
That being said I suspect the low bar squat just works really well for him and it would make no sense for him to change his style.
Pretty much only powerlifters squat low bar.
Most professional athletes, sprinters, other track and field athletes, olympic weightlifters, etc. all squat high bar, olympic style. Partially due to the fact it allows for a bigger ROM, and partially due to it helping develop vertical leap and other such athletic requirements better. It more closely mimics things like the way we actually squat to jump and so on. This is part of the reason most Olympic Weightlifters, including the Heavyweights have incredible Vertical Leaps. The Olympic style, high bar squat (aka Paleolithic chair/third world squat/etc.) is the more natural squat. It's the way babies squat, it's the way people in the third world squat. Us westerners have so much trouble with it, because we sit in chairs so frequently, and lose the mobility and dorsiflexion that we would naturally have otherwise.
On a related note. For Athletic strength training, front squats and single leg split squats are becoming much more prevalent lately.
High bar squat focusses mostly on the quadriceps.
Low bar squat allows glutes, hamstrings and especially lower back muscles to add to the quadriceps. For this reason, low bar squat yields the highest possible raw squats.
Powerlifters are the only one using it, cause for powerlifting only the weight you can squat matters. We are the epitome of squat.
The high bar squat might appear more "natural" but its flawed and not as much of a compound as low bar squat. The ROM argument is wrong. The competition rules say "below parallell". It means its unneccecary to go lower, wich will cost you power, but it doesnt mean you cant.
Every worldclass raw or IPF equipped squatter, does pauze squats frequently. Wich is pauzed at the very bottom. There is no difference in rom.
Because olympic lifters are exceptionally agile in the bottom position, they seemb to go deeper, but its simply a demand of their mechanics.
The olympic weightlifter argument is also wrong. The reason they practice highbar squat is because of the mechanics of snatch and clean&jerk. For maximum yield, your upper body must be able to dive under the bar as fast as possible, and this can only be done with a vertical position. High bar is vertical, low bar is at an angle.
If you want general strength and a bigger squat, squat low bar. If you want stronger quadriceps, do front squats. If you are an olympic lifter you do high bar squats.
If you are anything else, do high bar, you dont have the back for low bar anyway.
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I do fucking hate however, how these fatass american multiply freakshows are giving powerlifting a bad name, especially considering ROM.
If you see a morbidly obese fatass standing with his legs extremely wide, in a big black suit, wel thats multiply. its the synthol of powerlifting. Everyone hates it apart from the handfull of idiots who do it
Low bar squat allows glutes, hamstrings and especially lower back muscles to add to the quadriceps. For this reason, low bar squat yields the highest possible raw squats.
Powerlifters are the only one using it, cause for powerlifting only the weight you can squat matters. We are the epitome of squat.
The high bar squat might appear more "natural" but its flawed and not as much of a compound as low bar squat. The ROM argument is wrong. The competition rules say "below parallell". It means its unneccecary to go lower, wich will cost you power, but it doesnt mean you cant.
Every worldclass raw or IPF equipped squatter, does pauze squats frequently. Wich is pauzed at the very bottom. There is no difference in rom.
Because olympic lifters are exceptionally agile in the bottom position, they seemb to go deeper, but its simply a demand of their mechanics.
The olympic weightlifter argument is also wrong. The reason they practice highbar squat is because of the mechanics of snatch and clean&jerk. For maximum yield, your upper body must be able to dive under the bar as fast as possible, and this can only be done with a vertical position. High bar is vertical, low bar is at an angle.
If you want general strength and a bigger squat, squat low bar. If you want stronger quadriceps, do front squats. If you are an olympic lifter you do high bar squats.
If you are anything else, do high bar, you dont have the back for low bar anyway.
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I do fucking hate however, how these fatass american multiply freakshows are giving powerlifting a bad name, especially considering ROM.
If you see a morbidly obese fatass standing with his legs extremely wide, in a big black suit, wel thats multiply. its the synthol of powerlifting. Everyone hates it apart from the handfull of idiots who do it