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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Guyz, which pull variation targets which back muscles? Wide grip for lats, and close grip for lower and middle traps?
nah, many will tell you this, but both wide grip and close grip/triangle bar, will target the latissimus Dorsi.

The diffrence beeing that with wide grip, you get more volume in the sides, whilst close grip/triangle bar mostly make you a bit stringer.

However, you can do both at the same training, do lat pulldowns for strenght, and close grip pulldowns for reps. This way you target the same region in a diffrent way, and key here : you target diffrent secondary muscles
 

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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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This is what my back day would look like, back when i was on body schedules :

wide grip lateral pulldown : (reps) 12-10-8-6
Machine row or barbell row : 12-10-8-6
close grip pulldown : 3*12
seated cable row : 4*15
hyper extentions : 3*12 with bodyweight

after that i did triceps iirc
 

AFL_ITALIA

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nah, many will tell you this, but both wide grip and close grip/triangle bar, will target the latissimus Dorsi.

The diffrence beeing that with wide grip, you get more volume in the sides, whilst close grip/triangle bar mostly make you a bit stringer.

However, you can do both at the same training, do lat pulldowns for strenght, and close grip pulldowns for reps. This way you target the same region in a diffrent way, and key here : you target diffrent secondary muscles
Every time you post in this thread I feel like I have no goddamn idea what I'm doing :D.
 

Scottish

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Mar 13, 2011
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Does anybody have any tips for me on how to sprint faster? It's purely to aid my football ability. I play football twice a week, normally 5s but every second Wednesday we play 11s. My opposite number in 11s - the other team's striker - is coming off of a knee ligament injury and is starting to regain his pace. Last night he burned me several times.

And so I was thinking about ways I could improve my pace a bit. It would make sense to me that practicing sprinting would help, so I was thinking about doing some short runs (~2miles) and working in 10 seconds of sprinting and 30 seconds of light jogging or something similar. Also to start doing things like squats to beef up my quads.

Beyond that I can't think of much else. Anybody have any ideas?
 

Lilith

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May 19, 2006
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Is running uphill more effective for trying to lose weight or is an all round work out at the gym better? I tried to do this hill but it kinda kicked my ass. Eventually...

 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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Running uphill is better for the knees, it requires more effort which eventually will make you lose more calories but it is more demanding than any other running.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Is running uphill more effective for trying to lose weight or is an all round work out at the gym better? I tried to do but it kinda kicked my ass. Eventually...
Usually i would ask bodytype and weight, but i take your a women, and they tend to dislike beeing asked :tongue:


Running is by far the most effective way to burn calories. Aka lose fat. If you can cope with running, interval sprints make perfection.

However, there is an issue with running. You'll mainly burn carbs, because of the high caloric demand. This offcourse depends. Someone who is as accustomed to running like @JCK for example, doesnt have this issue and can perfectly cope with running and intervals to lose fat (if he even has any).

thing is, you need to burn fat, not sugar.


if you have acces to a gym, you can do this in a very efficient way.


First you'll start by "warming up" for 5 to 10 minutes. Can be on any cardio apparatus, tho i consider rowing or moonwalking more effective. What you want to reach is the point where your muscles are warm, the initial cramping from starting to excercise is gone, and you reach a steady heartrate and breathing rate.

Next, there is weights. You see, weights are a very good way to initiate fatburning, along with sugarburning. But at a better rate. You can spend 45 to 60 minutes on weights. Isolation excercises mainly. Make sure its a schedule designed for females, cause you have diffrent targets. I'd also recommand adding glutes and squat. Dont ask why, your boyfriend/husband will agree with me after a while. Tell him he doesnt need to thank me.
The key of your weights, is that you do each excercise for about four sets of usually10 to 25 reps depending on what muscle it is. This way you will force fatburning to kick in.

Now, when this is done, your body is allready in a state where it burns fat to support the energy needs. Thats great.
Now, you can do the final part of the training, wich is cardio. 30 to 45 minutes on any cardioapparatus that brings your heartrate into cardio zone will do. Offcourse, with better condition, come better excercises. At best its offcourse running again. At the end, there is interval running.



Dont make the mistake to drink "sport drinks". Thats high glucose garbage and holds more calories then you burn. Thats stuff is for people who are doing a contest or endurance sports.

eat 2 to 1 houre before training (like bread or something complex carb-ish without fat), and all you'll need, is a bottle of water
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Thanks folks.

Zach will the weights make me bulk up?
No thats sheer impossible for a women. You'll just look more sporty, more toned. Women cannot bulk up because the testosterone is far to low. Any women you see that appears "bulked" is on steroids and hormone therapy.
The natural limit with insane genetics, is for example Zoe Smith. And she is incredibly blessed, musclewise.

The only actual muscular change you could get, is a more lifted, rounded bottom, wich is desired by every male on the planet.
But that will require houres of squatting and training of the gluteus maximus.
 

Lilith

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May 19, 2006
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No thats sheer impossible for a women. You'll just look more sporty, more toned. Women cannot bulk up because the testosterone is far to low. Any women you see that appears "bulked" is on steroids and hormone therapy.
The natural limit with insane genetics, is for example Zoe Smith. And she is incredibly blessed, musclewise.

The only actual muscular change you could get, is a more lifted, rounded bottom, wich is desired by every male on the planet.
But that will require houres of squatting and training of the gluteus maximus.
Can't go wrong with a more rounded butt. :D
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Williams sisters got a high natural testosterone, and heavy bone structute and a relativelt high fat%. Also very mesomorph build.

Not really buff. But strong.

Unless you are born like that, youll never look like that
 

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