Guus Hiddink - Juventuz Official Poll (26 Viewers)
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I don't know of many experienced, proven managers, who I would say are truly special. Your statement implies something valid, but not accurate. As who are all these other coaches currently unavailable, who would be the best coach for the team???
I like Ferguson. Hardly a tactical genius, but as a man manager, and creative/directive force for a team, he is superb, and always has been. Fortunate with the crop of highly talented players who came through all around the same time in the 90s, but still...he's a winner.
Capello. We have already had him. Tactically clever, strict disciplinarian...A great coach, who plays boring but very effective football. Another winner.
Mourinho...I rate him as a manager. Its stupid not to. Though much of the great results he had at chelsea, was based on the foundations forged by Ranieri before him...Tactically astute. Revels in using his own charisma to galvanise his tropps and irritate opponents. His arrogance aside, he has the makings of a great coach. Lacks class though...Passion is one thing, petulance is another. Great players seem to follow him with zeal, which is ALWAYS going to help him wherever he ends up.
Prandelli has performed remarkably well in Florence...but is not yet anywhere near the standard of the trio above...Neither is Gasperini...but as a juventino in heart, I would be much more eager to see him given a roll of the dice than Prandelli.
I would prefer ANY of the above coaches to Ciro, but when I chuck Guus into that mix, only Mourinho comes close to what I perceive to be the dutchman's talent and potential to take our club back to the top. And Guus has more experience than any of them, rescue missions. I don't see it as simply the potential challenge of reviving the fortunes of one of the former giants of italian and world football, its also the challenge of facing off against mourinho. Hiddink would be challenged in many ways.
Out of all those coaches, i would choose Guus. Because he has proven experience at doing what we need someone to do, desperately...which is pull together a fragmented, downtrodden team, which DOES contain enough talent to be far more potent and entertaining a team than they are now and have been for many months, and produce something close to the optimum potential output, of the TEAM, not just individuals.
7m would be fine by me. Because he is MORE important than transfers presently. Its not just our results which have been wretched, its been our performances. the club is lacking spirit and heart and seemingly, quality. Bonuses for winning competitions...why not eh? If he earns it, grant him the prizes. I would be far happier to be a decent team again, capable of challenging for Serie A and not facing potential humiliation in EVERY champions league game, than get another second rate manager, spend another 50 million in the summer, and continue to slowly decay into a team challenging the likes of parma, fiorentina, geno, roma...for 3rd-5th position when we should be throttling the milan clubs, vying for top spot alone. Like we used to...
I like Ferguson. Hardly a tactical genius, but as a man manager, and creative/directive force for a team, he is superb, and always has been. Fortunate with the crop of highly talented players who came through all around the same time in the 90s, but still...he's a winner.
Capello. We have already had him. Tactically clever, strict disciplinarian...A great coach, who plays boring but very effective football. Another winner.
Mourinho...I rate him as a manager. Its stupid not to. Though much of the great results he had at chelsea, was based on the foundations forged by Ranieri before him...Tactically astute. Revels in using his own charisma to galvanise his tropps and irritate opponents. His arrogance aside, he has the makings of a great coach. Lacks class though...Passion is one thing, petulance is another. Great players seem to follow him with zeal, which is ALWAYS going to help him wherever he ends up.
Prandelli has performed remarkably well in Florence...but is not yet anywhere near the standard of the trio above...Neither is Gasperini...but as a juventino in heart, I would be much more eager to see him given a roll of the dice than Prandelli.
I would prefer ANY of the above coaches to Ciro, but when I chuck Guus into that mix, only Mourinho comes close to what I perceive to be the dutchman's talent and potential to take our club back to the top. And Guus has more experience than any of them, rescue missions. I don't see it as simply the potential challenge of reviving the fortunes of one of the former giants of italian and world football, its also the challenge of facing off against mourinho. Hiddink would be challenged in many ways.
Out of all those coaches, i would choose Guus. Because he has proven experience at doing what we need someone to do, desperately...which is pull together a fragmented, downtrodden team, which DOES contain enough talent to be far more potent and entertaining a team than they are now and have been for many months, and produce something close to the optimum potential output, of the TEAM, not just individuals.
7m would be fine by me. Because he is MORE important than transfers presently. Its not just our results which have been wretched, its been our performances. the club is lacking spirit and heart and seemingly, quality. Bonuses for winning competitions...why not eh? If he earns it, grant him the prizes. I would be far happier to be a decent team again, capable of challenging for Serie A and not facing potential humiliation in EVERY champions league game, than get another second rate manager, spend another 50 million in the summer, and continue to slowly decay into a team challenging the likes of parma, fiorentina, geno, roma...for 3rd-5th position when we should be throttling the milan clubs, vying for top spot alone. Like we used to...
You are talking like we have a choice
We are screwd with lots of losses in a very short period of time and our team didn`t really show anything on the pitch and didnt show any signs of improving
We dont have a choice. We should pay Hiddink what he wants as we are in a tough situation and unless we try to get out of there we are going to stay in it
We are screwd with lots of losses in a very short period of time and our team didn`t really show anything on the pitch and didnt show any signs of improving
We dont have a choice. We should pay Hiddink what he wants as we are in a tough situation and unless we try to get out of there we are going to stay in it
My point is that bringing a one of the famous coaches will not fix our problems if that coach does not fit with the team and will be sacked 6months or a year from now. I would rather get a decent coach who fit our system and can build on it for the future. think how we got lippi in 93.
also, guus is overrated. he only really succeed in PSV were he fits best. other than that he only won the FA cup. other than that the best thing he did is fourth place with Netherlands in 1998 (i wont count the korea one since that was assisted by refs).only capelo and murinho have proven to be winners with different teams.
he might get week teams to play spiritually but he always chokes when he faces big teams and from a winning trophies point of view h doesn't have a good enough record to get all the praise he have.
My point is that he might be our best option if we are planning to play nice football but probably wont win anything.
But IMO, if we want to win he is not our best option and we shouldn't go with a very expensive risk.
we should wit until summer and try to to get a better coach.
also, guus is overrated. he only really succeed in PSV were he fits best. other than that he only won the FA cup. other than that the best thing he did is fourth place with Netherlands in 1998 (i wont count the korea one since that was assisted by refs).only capelo and murinho have proven to be winners with different teams.
he might get week teams to play spiritually but he always chokes when he faces big teams and from a winning trophies point of view h doesn't have a good enough record to get all the praise he have.
My point is that he might be our best option if we are planning to play nice football but probably wont win anything.
But IMO, if we want to win he is not our best option and we shouldn't go with a very expensive risk.
we should wit until summer and try to to get a better coach.
I can`t believe you wrote it
Guus also had a lot of success in coaching countries + Chelsea were lost with Scolari and then when he came Chelsea played great and were unlucky to be eliminated by Barcelona
There arent many managers who can fix teams in a short period and make them great
I agree that Capello is great and I believe that he will win England the WC but Guus also is a great manager who can put that kind of effect on a team+ he is one of the best managers in the world!
Guus also had a lot of success in coaching countries + Chelsea were lost with Scolari and then when he came Chelsea played great and were unlucky to be eliminated by Barcelona
There arent many managers who can fix teams in a short period and make them great
I agree that Capello is great and I believe that he will win England the WC but Guus also is a great manager who can put that kind of effect on a team+ he is one of the best managers in the world!
i didn't say he is not good. but comparing him to the likes of capelo is ludacris. he is in the large group of second tier coaches who bring on good game but dont win much to justify their reputation. they can bring you to second place but more than that is too much to ask.
to put it in a simple manner: list to me what has he trophies outside the Netherlands.
Anyway, Great or not, I don't see him fit for juve. he is a short term fix coach. even if we didn't sack him he will look for his next project by the end of next year tops. if we want to build a team we need a committed coach for at least three seasons otherwise will be down this road at the end of every season.
to put it in a simple manner: list to me what has he trophies outside the Netherlands.
Anyway, Great or not, I don't see him fit for juve. he is a short term fix coach. even if we didn't sack him he will look for his next project by the end of next year tops. if we want to build a team we need a committed coach for at least three seasons otherwise will be down this road at the end of every season.
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