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Ford Prefect

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:sergio: or a 15 year old. Why do you even have to say such a stupid thing man?
You're 15 now? I thought you were 18?

Maybe because i've been in Poland for a week and i've missed you, ooooor because I think you're an idiot that is too stupid too realise they are stupid and i'll take any opportunity to point that out, or because you're a dickhead and I was just saying hi :tup:.
 
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    You're 15 now? I thought you were 18?

    Maybe because i've been in Poland for a week and i've missed you, ooooor because I think you've an idiot that too stupid too realise they are stupid and ill take any opportunity to point that out, or because you've a dickhead and I was just saying hi :tup:.
    No, I couldn't change the strings when I was 15. I actually can now after I tried again.

    And just stop man, seriously, all you're doing is making yourself look like a fool to everyone on the forum.
     

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    No, I couldn't change the strings when I was 15. I actually can now after I tried again.

    And just stop man, seriously, all you're doing is making yourself look like a fool to everyone on the forum.
    You haven't strung your guitar for three years because you couldn'work something out that simple?? I've been doing it by myself since I was 12....2 weeks after I got my first guitar, I read an article on UG and I was rockin'. Moron.
     
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    You haven't strung your guitar for three years because you couldn'work something out that simple?? I've been doing it by myself since I was 12....2 weeks after I got my first guitar, I read an article on UG and I was rockin'. Moron.
    No, because I got frustrated the first time I did it and didn't bother again, I played my other guitar most of the time. Why is it such a big deal? I bet I can play better than you anyway.

     

    Ford Prefect

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    Shredding/being able to play quickly isn't a display of ability, its a display of wasting your life on unimportant skills.

    Learn to play any of the following properly and then add your own unique style that you've developed (through not wasting your life shredding) and you'll be nearly as good as I am, but given musical development and understandin is something that occurs over time and i have a 5 year head start on you then you're attempt will never be over.

    Don't Think Twice Its Alright

    Deep River Blues

    Make me a Pallot on the Floor

    Coffee Blues

    Never Going Back Again

    Little Wing

    Bold As Love
     
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    Who said anything about shredding? Assumptions :touched:

    'You'll be nearly as good as I am' :lol: mr. famous guitarist jasper over here

    Tell Paul Gilbert, Yngwie Malmsteen, Eddie Van Halen, Kirk Hammett and Alex Skolnick they've wasted their lives. There is not set way on how best to play guitar, it's part of music and music is art. No one style of playing guitar is better than another.

    And I can play Little Wing, the Stevie Ray Vaughn version too which is much more difficult than the Hendrix version.
    But if you do want to talk shredding then try and play this:

    3:10

    If you think that is bad then you should probably go and neck yourself. Marty Friedman is one of the most talented metal guitarists ever, he incorporates many different styles of music into 1 solo like that one.

    Your time = better guitarist thing is :sergio: Doesn't seem to hold true in the case of Steve Vai and Joe Perry where Perry is 10 years older but Vai is clearly a much better guitarist.

    And I don't think putting your own style into someone else's music constitutes being a great guitarist, if you are as good as you say you are then you would have your own style in your own songs.
     
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    also, if you think music shouldn't progress by saying that shredding is a waste of life then I don't even know what to say.
     

    Ford Prefect

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    How is shredding progress? Do you not listen to classical music? Bach was a virtuoso violinist and its from him that the majority of neo-classic shred comes from. I used to be an idiot like you when I was 15-19 and all I did was fret masturbation on my ibanez - Learning COB, Metallica, Trivium, Ozzy with Rhodes songs note for note and then I realised how really boring it was and how unimpresive it is to listen to, especialy being a part of the learning process and seeing how redundent it is.

    The main reason people play guitar is to...play to other people. If you think other people want to hear one 18 kid with spots and greasy hair wanking his fret board then you are a fool. Also if you don't want to bring you're own style to the guitar and just want to play note for note copies of songs then whats the point in playing in the first place, to copy people?

    'If you set your goal to be as good as someone else than as soon as you achieve that your standards will slip, if your goal is to always improve on yourself then your quest is never over'. scroobious pip.

    What I am trying to explain to you is that these -




    Will always being more enjoyable and challenging to play, as well as being nice to listen to for pretty much anyone, than any fret masturbation from gilbert et al.

    Being able to carry an entire song - rhythm, melody and bass (rocking bass finger picking/flat picking) within one guitar is an incredible skill and if you ask most shredders to do it they wont be able too.

    Maybe in a few years you'll understand.
     
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    It's not just shredding, it's all the styles of music that go with it, like progressive metal that is actually progressive musically rather than being progressive by the sound of the instruments (i.e. new amp technology and recording of drums etc). So I'm an idiot? nice, I've never read one post directed to me where you've never insulted me and yet I still try to debate & argue with you. Also where did I say that all I play is metal? Stop making so many assupmtions. I know a lot of stuff and I enjoy playing music from many different styles...rock, metal, blues, funk, flamenco style and even some jazz.

    None of those videos are that impressive to listen to...you want impressive blues-ish stuff? here:




    Every single person that's picked up the guitar to play has picked it up in the first place because they were inspired by someone else and wanted to play that. So don't bullshit me and tell me any of those blues guys or you as a 12 year old were above that. Again, where did I say anyone wants to hear me play? Stop making assumptions FFS. I play guitar because I enjoy playing it and it's a hobby, not everyone has to be an asshole about it like you. And so what if I like copying people? If that didn't happen then you wouldn't even have a guitar to play because the majority of guitars sold are to customers who just enjoy playing guitar for a hobby. What if I haven't even developed my own style yet. You were 18 once too and you're just insulting your own self a few years ago so chill the fuck out.

    Music is subjective anyway, just because in your opinion it's nicer to listen to for everyone, doesn't mean it is.

    Maybe in a few years you'll be a nicer & better person.
     

    Ford Prefect

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    What are you guys rigs like? I play more acoustic than electric these days but when I was in the band last year the singer had a Marshal 100 watt valve amp which was just :tuttosport: for tone. Theres no way I could afford one for a long time so im looking at getting a valve overdrive pedal to get that tone. Does anyone else use one/know of one to recommend? My Electric set up is a Line 6 Spider iii 50 watt, Line 6 Pod X blah blah blah, fender tele with standard pickups & Ibanez rg1750x with two active humbucks and a passive single coil (which im trying to sell to get a casino or dot) plus some electrics i built myself when i was growing up which have seymour duncan passive humbuckers on them and a vintage eddie van hallen signature Kramer which has a warped floyd rose bridge on it so i can't use it :cry:.
     

    Raz

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    What are you guys rigs like? I play more acoustic than electric these days but when I was in the band last year the singer had a Marshal 100 watt valve amp which was just :tuttosport: for tone. Theres no way I could afford one for a long time so im looking at getting a valve overdrive pedal to get that tone. Does anyone else use one/know of one to recommend? My Electric set up is a Line 6 Spider iii 50 watt, Line 6 Pod X blah blah blah, fender tele with standard pickups & Ibanez rg1750x with two active humbucks and a passive single coil (which im trying to sell to get a casino or dot) plus some electrics i built myself when i was growing up which have seymour duncan passive humbuckers on them and a vintage eddie van hallen signature Kramer which has a warped floyd rose bridge on it so i can't use it :cry:.
    Nice.

    I'm at the moment looking for a good vintage sounding amp. So playing mostly acoustic, a dingy awful two times repaired cheap guitar. Don't have where to plug in my black american standard Strat. But i'm ok, it's good for the blues :)

    Jasper I asked you sometime ago, but maybe you still had some ill feelings towards me at the time, so I'm hoping they have past by now :D Do you have any material you could recommend to read about/study, techinques, notations, tabs about the good old blues? The ones you call bluegrass stuff? Would be cool if you have and would share.
     

    Ford Prefect

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    Nice.

    I'm at the moment looking for a good vintage sounding amp. So playing mostly acoustic, a dingy awful two times repaired cheap guitar. Don't have where to plug in my black american standard Strat. But i'm ok, it's good for the blues :)

    Jasper I asked you sometime ago, but maybe you still had some ill feelings towards me at the time, so I'm hoping they have past by now :D Do you have any material you could recommend to read about/study, techinques, notations, tabs about the good old blues? The ones you call bluegrass stuff? Would be cool if you have and would share.
    Erm im about to head to uni for a few hours. So i'll get back to you later but -

    How is your finger picking? (rocking bass not arpeggio) How is your lead improvising? Can you flat pick?
     

    Raz

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    Erm im about to head to uni for a few hours. So i'll get back to you later but -

    How is your finger picking? (rocking bass not arpeggio) How is your lead improvising? Can you flat pick?
    I mainly play both, when I feel like it i play flat pick or thinger pick.

    I can play some boom chick style, but not very good(mainly when it's alternating between three strings i'm not good, if it's bass with one or two i'm quite familiar with it), I have few Tommy Emmanuel arrangements under my belt, but there is plenty of room for improvement there.

    And my lead, it depends, if it's based on 12 bar blues it's acceptable, other then that it's awful :)

    Cool, I'll wait for your reply then.
     

    Ford Prefect

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    I mainly play both, when I feel like it i play flat pick or thinger pick.

    I can play some boom chick style, but not very good(mainly when it's alternating between three strings i'm not good, if it's bass with one or two i'm quite familiar with it), I have few Tommy Emmanuel arrangements under my belt, but there is plenty of room for improvement there.

    And my lead, it depends, if it's based on 12 bar blues it's acceptable, other then that it's awful :)

    Cool, I'll wait for your reply then.
    I picked up rocking bass finger picking from my guitar teacher when I was 14. He forced me to learn as a technique when all I was interested in was bashing out metallica riffs. I got a couple of songs down and completely forgot about it. A few years back I got interested in it again, I love the idea of using one guitar to carry all three parts of the song - Rhythm, Bass & Melody...and sometimes percussion.

    How do you learn best? Do you want me to suggest video's, song's to learn or tab sites?
     

    Raz

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    I picked up rocking bass finger picking from my guitar teacher when I was 14. He forced me to learn as a technique when all I was interested in was bashing out metallica riffs. I got a couple of songs down and completely forgot about it. A few years back I got interested in it again, I love the idea of using one guitar to carry all three parts of the song - Rhythm, Bass & Melody...and sometimes percussion.

    How do you learn best? Do you want me to suggest video's, song's to learn or tab sites?
    Songs and tabs would be cool :) I'm not really into those videos, other then that I'm open to anything. I really like books, where there are progressive lessons, if you have any to reccomend or send would be perfect.
     

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