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giovanotti

ONE MAN ARMY
Aug 13, 2004
13,725
Sergio said:
Why, because Nedved is running around like a chicken with his head cut off all the time??


Gattuso does that as well, but he is FAR more effective it at than Nedved, as evidenced in the World Cup.

That stuff may have worked 6 years ago, but it doesn't work now for Pavel.
Just to mention that Nedved scored 7 and Ibrahimovic 10 goals,last season,and who is striker of those 2 mentioned?

Nedved is running like a chicken...hmmm interesting,I don't want to say more.We are not talking about Gattuso and Nedved,we are talking about Ibrahimovic,that guy is as i said a waste and we need to sell him.I was against that deal from the start.Why the hell we sold Mutu,a loyal player who was Juventino 100%,and we are still keeping Ibrakadabra???I'm starting to fear that no one wants him anymore.
 

Juventico

Junior Member
Apr 7, 2005
301
Ibra has talent but he is a spoilt kid thanks to Crapello, if things weren't as bleak as they are and we were looking forward to a Serie A + Champions season I'd be looking forward to see a new coach give Ibra some bench time and have him meditate on all the possible meanings of team play. (Some vids of the Italy matches of the world cup and some Discovery kids shows about making friends and working together with them might be a good start).

As things stand now, well. I do have a small faint hope for amnesty. I'd even agree to lose the last two scudetti, a fine and even a point deduction if we were to remain in A. Some one said a coulpe of pages back that it's Juve's fault because the club should carry some guilt in what Moggi did, I can live with that, but the players shouldn't pay for it. While some Juve players are definitely mercenaries and will go to some other club, others aren't and definetely would like to stay with Juve, but they are young and if they went down to B or C they'd lose every chance to join their national team in the next one or two years (Euro Qualifiers and 2008). They would be forced to make choices, arrangements, moving by law for something they do not have any responsibility. And that's the same for the other affected teams.

Not to mention the blow to Italian Football as a whole. Bigbadass world champion country italy will be represented in Europe by the teams: Inter, Roma, Chievo and Livorno (or something equally awful). Commercially Serie A would lose millions for broadcasting rights, (which international network would want to pay just to broadcast the thrilling game between Inter and Livorno ?). This isn't the 80s anymore, priorities have shifted drastically and the veredict should keep this in mind.

And last just a silly half-rhetorical queestion: In case of Juve being demoted couldn't Juve just buy another club (let's say Siena) rename it to something more fancy like Juventus Siena C.C (Club de Calcio) and transfer our players there? Is the right to play in a certain division transferrable? Is there anything to prevent Juventus to do it? Do we have the money to do it?
 

serfaraaz

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2005
1,912
barkuss said:
So wrong to sell Mutu...idiots. And I'm becoming more flegmatic day by day about all this things....
mutu is just one of many transfers buffon canna zambro emerSon vieira ibra trezguet will leave if juve get relegated
 

d.nico

Senior Member
Apr 23, 2003
2,244
Juve89 said:
No, it isn't their fault. But Moggi was a part of the team, and the team should take the punish united. The players can always find new clubs, but someone must be punished. Otherwise it will look as the big clubs can do whatever they want to without recieving any form for punishing while the small clubs will be punished- remember Genoa last year.
You are right, and the "someone" is Moggi. He is the one that fault and he is the one should be punish.
How come you take away 2 scudetti from a world champion like Del Piero, Cannavaro etc.
 

Juve89

The Farmer
May 27, 2004
3,420
giovanotti said:
Just to mention that Nedved scored 7 and Ibrahimovic 10 goals,last season,and who is striker of those 2 mentioned?

Nedved is running like a chicken...hmmm interesting,I don't want to say more.We are not talking about Gattuso and Nedved,we are talking about Ibrahimovic,that guy is as i said a waste and we need to sell him.I was against that deal from the start.Why the hell we sold Mutu,a loyal player who was Juventino 100%,and we are still keeping Ibrakadabra???I'm starting to fear that no one wants him anymore.
Inter wants him:D
 

Maher

Juventuz addict
Dec 16, 2002
13,521
d.nico said:
You are right, and the "someone" is Moggi. He is the one that fault and he is the one should be punish.
How come you take away 2 scudetti
from a world champion like Del Piero, Cannavaro etc.
:agree:
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
Juventico said:
Ibra has talent but he is a spoilt kid thanks to Crapello, if things weren't as bleak as they are and we were looking forward to a Serie A + Champions season I'd be looking forward to see a new coach give Ibra some bench time and have him meditate on all the possible meanings of team play. (Some vids of the Italy matches of the world cup and some Discovery kids shows about making friends and working together with them might be a good start).

As things stand now, well. I do have a small faint hope for amnesty. I'd even agree to lose the last two scudetti, a fine and even a point deduction if we were to remain in A. Some one said a coulpe of pages back that it's Juve's fault because the club should carry some guilt in what Moggi did, I can live with that, but the players shouldn't pay for it. While some Juve players are definitely mercenaries and will go to some other club, others aren't and definetely would like to stay with Juve, but they are young and if they went down to B or C they'd lose every chance to join their national team in the next one or two years (Euro Qualifiers and 2008). They would be forced to make choices, arrangements, moving by law for something they do not have any responsibility. And that's the same for the other affected teams.

Not to mention the blow to Italian Football as a whole. Bigbadass world champion country italy will be represented in Europe by the teams: Inter, Roma, Chievo and Livorno (or something equally awful). Commercially Serie A would lose millions for broadcasting rights, (which international network would want to pay just to broadcast the thrilling game between Inter and Livorno ?). This isn't the 80s anymore, priorities have shifted drastically and the veredict should keep this in mind.

And last just a silly half-rhetorical queestion: In case of Juve being demoted couldn't Juve just buy another club (let's say Siena) rename it to something more fancy like Juventus Siena C.C (Club de Calcio) and transfer our players there? Is the right to play in a certain division transferrable? Is there anything to prevent Juventus to do it? Do we have the money to do it?
The argument that Ibra's talent was wasted by capello is absurd.Ibra's biggest nemisis is his own self. Cap should've benched him but even when he was subbed or benched he played the next game in almost the same shitty way.When the kid learns to play with the team, then he will be a good player and then a great one.Now he is a below average player with a confidence of zero(after that bad world cup campain).He is not setting up goals and he isnt scoring them for a while, we see the occasional glimpse of brilliance but it doesnt help much.Its his fault not the coach's.

The problem is that the players r going to suffer for the club's wrong doings. Fact is that the likes of cannavaro,zambrotta,even thuram and viera will not lose their national team places.Especially the italian pair.As both of them r two of the most important figures of the azzuri.Even Gigi.Doesnt matter if they were playing in serie B. They will only want to leave to focus on personal achievements, they r not getting any younger and they dont want to lose a year on looking for promotion to serie A and then not having a serie A challenging side.
 

- vOnAm -

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2004
3,779
Juve89 said:
Inter wants him:D
Now there's a new theory...to inter's chaos theory..

All this time Inter have bought Great players and turned them into crapy players...
It seems reasonable to think if they buy Crappy players, perhaps they'll actually play like great players? :D
 

Lilianna

Senior Member
Apr 3, 2003
15,969
- vOnAm - said:
Now there's a new theory...to inter's chaos theory..

All this time Inter have bought Great players and turned them into crapy players...
It seems reasonable to think if they buy Crappy players, perhaps they'll actually play like great players? :D
i don't think so....
cause even the great player doesn't bother playing well for inter,and he becomes crappy.
so why on earyh would a crappy player want to play well for inter? :wallbang:
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
Lilianna said:
poor grosso...

and he is ssuch a good player!
yeah very good player, although sometimes he could seem like a very average player. We will see how he goes with inter though, i remember him playing well since his perugia days with sersi cosmi, wonder if inter r the team to reck his game

imagine ibra and adriano playing upfront? would seem a great partnership at first sight but i think it would a disaster
 

d.nico

Senior Member
Apr 23, 2003
2,244
Lilianna said:
i don't think so....
cause even the great player doesn't bother playing well for inter,and he becomes crappy.
so why on earyh would a crappy player want to play well for inter? :wallbang:
I think he was joking.
And Inter is a joke also :p
 

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