Good news about Juve thread (7 Viewers)

[mnementh]

This case is much bigger.

I don't think it is. I saw news commentaries about it... at the time it was worse - almos every single player was involved, you could trust nobody. This time no players or coaches are involved so it's different. Anyway, looking at the charges I think there's room of optimisim since only 3 "affected" matches are mentioned (udinese , bologona, lazio from 2004/2005)... I don't think it's fair to strip of titles because of that. Big fines because of Giraudo and Moggi conducts - yes, big reductionof points for next season as a punishment - yes, but seeing as Milan was involved too, losing the titles is not fair.

 

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[Lilianna]

as the days are passing,i am getting more and more scared of what can happen to us.

though,i still hope for the best.it is not over yet

 

[giovanotti]

as the days are passing,i am getting more and more scared of what can happen to us.

though,i still hope for the best.it is not over yet

I hope,too Frili,but the situation doesn't look good to me.

 

[Lilianna]

it doesn't look good to anyone unfortunatelly,but YOU NEVER KNOW.

maaaaaaybe we have just a big point reduction for next season! who knows.
i still have slight hopes

 

[Enron]

Where did you come from? I thought you were dead!

 

[Cronios]

blaming or whining about why other teams are not being invetigated proplerly wont make the situation any better for juventus imo.

I agree, asking for justice wont make any diference,
the verdict is already decided...

we lost the underground war years ago,
Juve will pay everything or noone will...

 

[supporter]

Juventus lawyer Mr. Cesare commented that juve has no direct involvment in the scandal as moggi should take the hole blame.

 

[bianconero]

Where is the honour?
If, and only if, it all turns out to be true, then I for one do not want these Scudetti.

 

[BIG DADDY!!!]

Every time I log into Juventuz.com and I see posts in this thread I think im gona hear some GOOD NEWS ABOUT JUVE but im always disappointed.

 

[mnementh]

can we be demoted as punishment but still retain the scudetti ? is that a possiblity ? I'd like that better than the other way round.

 

[giovanotti]

I would give these scudetti....we must think on our future rather than to live in the past!

 

[d.nico]

I don't apprehend why Galliani resigning is good news to Juve.

good news for me.

 

[JuveBoy]

We have to show that we didn't have any benefit from those situations. Look at all those matches, we lost all those big games. I don't understand why everyone is look at this event with black and white glasses. I meam, they have to show that we have benefits from match-fixing and favourable refereeing....
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Former Juventus chief executive Antonio Giraudo's lawyers are compiling a survey of yellow cards during the 2004-05 season with the aim of proving that Juventus did not benefit from favourable refereeing, La Gazzetta dello Sport reported.

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[Elvin]

Sadly this thread isn't growing fast

 

[serfaraaz]

juve boy can u tell me by compiling survey of yellow cards can giraudo lawyers juve are not guilty

 

[mnementh]

Indeed. I think people failed to realise what's happening. IMO, what happened is that everybody exploited this huge scandal to blame Juventus for things that are totally unproven, and for their own purposes (this includes the roma&milano based media).

What Moggi did was serious - you're not allowed to talk to referees before matches, wanthing certain referees to be assigned etc etc, that's all very serious, but is there a single proof/call that Juve actually paid a ref to sell a match ? Wasn't this all so that better refs, not refs that Moggi thought were biased against juve etc, will play ? Surely some pressure must have been, and that's wrong, but the pressure will be anyway when facing the big clubs in every league... it's an inherhent problem of the system, especially when GALLIANI was the guy who signs the paycheques for the refs - without him doing ANYTHHING, there was an obvious pressure from the refs.

So basically I don't see what incriminating evidence is there to say that Juve deserve not to win the titles ??? The club should be punished for misconduct - financially and penalties for next season, but these titles are ours, I see no reason why that should change.

 

[serfaraaz]

but mnemeth do u think can juve escape relegation can give u me some points that showS juve was not directly involved

 

[Tifoso]

Indeed. I think people failed to realise what's happening. IMO, what happened is that everybody exploited this huge scandal to blame Juventus for things that are totally unproven, and for their own purposes (this includes the roma&milano based media).

What Moggi did was serious - you're not allowed to talk to referees before matches, wanthing certain referees to be assigned etc etc, that's all very serious, but is there a single proof/call that Juve actually paid a ref to sell a match ? Wasn't this all so that better refs, not refs that Moggi thought were biased against juve etc, will play ? Surely some pressure must have been, and that's wrong, but the pressure will be anyway when facing the big clubs in every league... it's an inherhent problem of the system, especially when GALLIANI was the guy who signs the paycheques for the refs - without him doing ANYTHHING, there was an obvious pressure from the refs.

So basically I don't see what incriminating evidence is there to say that Juve deserve not to win the titles ??? The club should be punished for misconduct - financially and penalties for next season, but these titles are ours, I see no reason why that should change.

Brilliant post.

 

[serfaraaz]

but moggi has Said in interview that juve knew everything about him aSsigning refrees

 

[giovanotti]

Btw, unofficial reports are saying that Abramovich wants Cannavaro,and he is ready to pay about 23mil Euros for him.