Gonzalo Higuaín (79 Viewers)
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So? I did, but It just wasn't the case for me yesterday. He did not play like a choker. Scored two goals, both of them could have been vital. Missing a penalty happens, it does, and is often down to luck, and not necessarely choking. What else you wanna hear?
Penalties are just too much of a gamble for me to blame a miss solely on the taker being a choker and tag him as such.
Penalties are just too much of a gamble for me to blame a miss solely on the taker being a choker and tag him as such.
I think Maddy makes a fine point here. Some people here are like watching football first year.
The game is in the details. Higuain missed pen and the counter goal with Pjanic. That would have put us 4 at ht. Instead it was 2-1 and psychologically missing a pen is often the catalyst into the reaction of the opponent. Tottenham gained belief and they had nothing to lose anyway after going behind. Just attack attack attack. Now add errors at our back and there you go.
The game is in the details. Higuain missed pen and the counter goal with Pjanic. That would have put us 4 at ht. Instead it was 2-1 and psychologically missing a pen is often the catalyst into the reaction of the opponent. Tottenham gained belief and they had nothing to lose anyway after going behind. Just attack attack attack. Now add errors at our back and there you go.
I said the game is in the details.
This human crap is bs im sorry. If your highest paid and bought striker cant score pen to put us 3-1 up before ht then it deserves some blame. Saw the game from uk channel and theh absolutely admitted that if Juve had converted that pen it would have been a completely different HT talk.
Higuain himself probably got affected by this miss as he didnt show up 2nd half.
This human crap is bs im sorry. If your highest paid and bought striker cant score pen to put us 3-1 up before ht then it deserves some blame. Saw the game from uk channel and theh absolutely admitted that if Juve had converted that pen it would have been a completely different HT talk.
Higuain himself probably got affected by this miss as he didnt show up 2nd half.
There are plenty of other players to criticize like Khedira, Buffon, Chiellini etc who were all directly responsible for the draw but instead the player who was by far the best on the night for us gets bashed for missing a penalty.
I'm sorry but he did his job alright. The rest of the team let him down on the night.
And aren't we talking about this super Juventus who hasn't conceded a goal in 16 games ? Where was our defensive strength ?
I'm sorry but he did his job alright. The rest of the team let him down on the night.
And aren't we talking about this super Juventus who hasn't conceded a goal in 16 games ? Where was our defensive strength ?
Maybe they didn't feel like taking a PK? We don't know.
Forcing a normally deadly player from the spot into taking a PK has been proven to be a mistake plenty of times before. If you have a bunch of Penalty takers, you let the player shoot that feels the most confident. Might have been Higgy in this case.
If Dybala would have been there, he probably would have taken them, not sure it that would have been better, looking at his last PK's.
Forcing a normally deadly player from the spot into taking a PK has been proven to be a mistake plenty of times before. If you have a bunch of Penalty takers, you let the player shoot that feels the most confident. Might have been Higgy in this case.
If Dybala would have been there, he probably would have taken them, not sure it that would have been better, looking at his last PK's.
My question is unanswered.
And the talk about us being psychologically affected after the penalty miss, this argument applies to Juve but not to Spurs who came back from a 2 goal deficit ? Are we such a mentally weak team that we cant recover from a penalty miss ? Are we so poor offensively that we couldnt create more chances ?
Let's face it. It's just convenient to blame Higuain because he has a past history of choking.
And the talk about us being psychologically affected after the penalty miss, this argument applies to Juve but not to Spurs who came back from a 2 goal deficit ? Are we such a mentally weak team that we cant recover from a penalty miss ? Are we so poor offensively that we couldnt create more chances ?
Let's face it. It's just convenient to blame Higuain because he has a past history of choking.
Higuain is our best paid player and most expensive striker/player we ever bought. I think it does deserve some criticism in us going to HT 3-1 or even 4-1 considering the counter attack with Pjanic.
We would have been able to hold on better had we had Matuidi. He was precisely bought for improving our midfield and he would have improved it largely last night.
I already said in other thread Buffon is to blame for sure for the freekick. The first one is harsh cause offside trap failed him which actually Sandro was the guilty party but seems to be ignored here.
Then add other factors. Berna is playing CM when he isnt one. Didnt think Bentancur did well when he came on and he is a CM.
We bought Matuidi imo after the CL final loss. He would have made a huge difference. Maybe we should look to get a better backup physical DM then cause Sturaro is not in the level to compete in CL (see the Bayern game). Marchisio is not as good as he used to be with injury issues and form with lack of playing time but lets not forget he isnt a physical mid either so he would not have made a huge difference. Then you have useless space fillers in squad like Asamoah. Why we keep putting that guy to CL roster? Its time to promote some youngsters then.
We would have been able to hold on better had we had Matuidi. He was precisely bought for improving our midfield and he would have improved it largely last night.
I already said in other thread Buffon is to blame for sure for the freekick. The first one is harsh cause offside trap failed him which actually Sandro was the guilty party but seems to be ignored here.
Then add other factors. Berna is playing CM when he isnt one. Didnt think Bentancur did well when he came on and he is a CM.
We bought Matuidi imo after the CL final loss. He would have made a huge difference. Maybe we should look to get a better backup physical DM then cause Sturaro is not in the level to compete in CL (see the Bayern game). Marchisio is not as good as he used to be with injury issues and form with lack of playing time but lets not forget he isnt a physical mid either so he would not have made a huge difference. Then you have useless space fillers in squad like Asamoah. Why we keep putting that guy to CL roster? Its time to promote some youngsters then.
Or how about you stop being a douchebag for once just coz you disagree with someone...
This is about Higuain and this is about last night's result. It has direct relation to the ongoing discussion in this particular thread.
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This is about Higuain and this is about last night's result. It has direct relation to the ongoing discussion in this particular thread.
If you don't like to read it, just go fuck yourself or put me on ignore(wasn't I on your ignore anyway?)
Actually could well be. We have history of choking it in CL.
Also yes we were limited last nigt offensively.
Berna plays CM cause Matuidi is out.
Mandzu got injured but couldnt be replaced cause we already missed Dybala and Cuads. Instead we can only bring on mids who are hardly game changers in Sturaro, Asamoah, Benta.
Its easy to criticize Allegri but last night he didnt have game changing subs to make. Usually Allegri always makes good subs but he had nothing to bring on.
Barzagli might have improved us defensively. Matuidi would have shut the shop in midfield. That means Berna could have played more offensive role even yesterday. Lack of fresh legs in offense to bring on last night. Cuads could have come on to right side. Costa move to left to take Mandzu off and Dybala or Berna play just behind Higuain.
Also yes we were limited last nigt offensively.
Berna plays CM cause Matuidi is out.
Mandzu got injured but couldnt be replaced cause we already missed Dybala and Cuads. Instead we can only bring on mids who are hardly game changers in Sturaro, Asamoah, Benta.
Its easy to criticize Allegri but last night he didnt have game changing subs to make. Usually Allegri always makes good subs but he had nothing to bring on.
Barzagli might have improved us defensively. Matuidi would have shut the shop in midfield. That means Berna could have played more offensive role even yesterday. Lack of fresh legs in offense to bring on last night. Cuads could have come on to right side. Costa move to left to take Mandzu off and Dybala or Berna play just behind Higuain.