Gonzalo Higuaín - CF - Napoli (179 Viewers)

Pipita for 94 mil, yea or nay

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CrimsonianKing

The end of Jihadism
Jan 16, 2013
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i dont think thats a good investment strategy...to overlook proficiency for 'shining when matters'....im thinking the more proficient u are the more of a guarantee u are regardless of the intensity of the match...do we need a psychologist to sit in at the negotiation table as well?
Not even close to the truth. Someone proficient might help you win a round Robin format tournament when you're facing only 3 or 4, in Italy we have no equals, big teams and the rest are all minions. Sure winning and scoring against those minions is what will grant you the league title, but when it comes to something that's in the knockout format AND knowing that getting into the quarter finals means you will face the biggest teams in the world that's when "someone who shines at the big stage" make the whole difference. And Higuain has proved not once, not twice but time and time again that at those moments you can't and shouldn't count on him.
 

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Itay

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Aug 10, 2009
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Let him come... I don't like the figures but I like the player.
And it will probably create a snowball effect leading to more publicity, popularity, players who would want to come here... the magnitude of this kind of purchase is so large, we'll retain our investment in no time. I'm all for it.
 

frzl

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Apr 15, 2006
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more than 1000 users following the guru thread at vs :p

curva wrote another article saying that napoli won´t negotiate at all but we are willing to pay the clause in two installments. afterwards, further negotiations for zaza or pereyra can´t be excluded. rugani is still considered unsellable even after benatia´s arrival.

sky reiterated that we are willing to pay the clause and that higuains arrival is not tied to the sale of pogba, bonucci or anyone else from the starting eleven.


oh and don´t google for "masturbation gifs" when you are at work. apparently the funny ones where a tennis player jerks off his racket aren´t the first ones to show up :sergio:
 

Itay

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curva wrote another article saying that napoli won´t negotiate at all but we are willing to pay the clause in two installments. afterwards, further negotiations for zaza or pereyra can´t be excluded. rugani is still considered unsellable even after benatia´s arrival.

sky reiterated that we are willing to pay the clause and that higuains arrival is not tied to the sale of pogba, bonucci or anyone else from the starting eleven.


oh and don´t google for "masturbation gifs" when you are at work. apparently the funny ones where a tennis player jerks off his racket aren´t the first ones to show up :sergio:
After all this hype and excitement, it would be a massive let down if we don't get a WC striker this summer (Higuain or other).
Damn you Marotta.
 

s4tch

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curva wrote another article saying that napoli won´t negotiate at all but we are willing to pay the clause in two installments. afterwards, further negotiations for zaza or pereyra can´t be excluded. rugani is still considered unsellable even after benatia´s arrival.

sky reiterated that we are willing to pay the clause and that higuains arrival is not tied to the sale of pogba, bonucci or anyone else from the starting eleven.



oh and don´t google for "masturbation gifs" when you are at work. apparently the funny ones where a tennis player jerks off his racket aren´t the first ones to show up :sergio:
i'm still pretty skeptic about the higuain deal, but if we keep pogba, bonucci, rugani & co, then it sounds less irritating to pay 90+ for any player.

btw that rumored 7,5m wage bill looks even more unreal than his buyout price. i bet other players will ask for a raise the moment higuain enters the locker.
 

dolph

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Mar 30, 2006
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There is a lot of confusion going on here about amortizations and transfer fees. Amortizations are irrelevant for the actual finances of the club, except for tax purposes.

For example, suppose we buy Higuain for 94m paid in 2 installments and give him 12m per year gross wage and a 5 year contract. In the balance sheet we book an asset worth 94m (the rights on Higuain) and we sutract 47m cash. So the effects on the assets is +47m. In the liabilities we add the 47m we owe Napoli next year, so the the liabilities are also +47m.

Next year, we pay Napoli 47m and we amortize 1/5th of the rights on Higauin. Assets are -94/5=18.8m and -47m cash, which is -65.8m. Liabilities are -47m we don't owe Napoli anymore. The 18.8m affect the equity through the income statement, so equity is -18.8m. Always assets=liabilities+equity.

In the income statement (aka profit and loss statement) the only things that have any effect are the wage (-12m) and the amortization (-18.8m). That's why people say that the total cost per year is the wage + amortization. But that's just accounting junk. It is not the real economic effect and doesn't affect the valuation of a company and shouldn't affect business decisions.

Suppose we sell Higauin after his 3rd year for 10m. The residual value of Higuain is 2/5 of 94m = 37.6m. So the effect on the assets sheet is +10m (cash) - 37.6m = -27.6m. There is not effect on the liabilities. Equity is -27.6m because we record a loss in the income statement. So, we lose 27.6m from the sale and we save 18.8+12=30.8m from amortization and wages for the next 2 years, so the total effect from the sale is:
year 0: -27.6m; year 1: +30.8m; year 2: +30.8m, total: +34m.

Why is this not the correct way to look at it?
The much simpler analysis
year 0: +10m transfer fee; year 1: +12m saved wage; year 2: +12m saved wage, total: +34m, gives you the same total, but a different distribution over the years. But this is the correct distribution because it reflects the actual cash flow. We are not giving 27.6m in year 0 and getting 30.8m for the next 2 years. We have already paid for Higuain.

The way analysts value companies is by discounting the future earnings. But for the reason I explained, they don't look at net income (which includes amortizations), they look at EBITDA (earnings before interest taxation depreciation and amortization) - taxes - CAPEX (capital expenses). Amortizations are not a cash flow, but CAPEX are. Buying Higuain is a capital expense (and so is selling him, but with the opposite sign), so what matters is when the installments are actually paid.

Hope that helped.
Finally someone who gets it. Every company incl. Football clubs who are listed aims to maximize profit and will therefore try to maximize future cash flows. The accounting stuff is only important because of FFP.
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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amateurs...you google for 'fap gifs'

but I'd rather google 'how to suicide without pain'
This balding fat choking douche is annoying on personal level, but on the pitch he is big upgrade for us, yes not as likely in big games but in general would be. The price is insane, but if the club thinks they can do this deal, who am I to argue? Lets rub our hands in anticipiation birdman style and just enjoy the marvellous show.


 
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