Global Warming - It's Your Fault People (5 Viewers)

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Cuti

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according to a teacher i have at school of environmental science. In 1000 years there is going to be an ice-age. So even though there is global warming the pattern is cyclical
 
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Michael_Cutajar said:
according to a teacher i have at school of environmental science. In 1000 years there is going to be an ice-age. So even though there is global warming the pattern is cyclical
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Well, I highly doubt if we have any way of predicting when the next natural ice age would occur. And yes, past history shows that there have been cycles of climate change - though not at any regular pattern.

Think of climate change like, oh, Farrah Fawcett. Sometimes she shows up on late night television for interviews and seems coherent. At other times, she seems completely inebriated and smacked out of her mind.

The difference we're talking about here with climate change is that the world is like Farrah, and the human behavior of buring of fossil fuels and other CO2-producing actions (which are accelerating, btw) is a bit like pumping her up with scotch and crystal meth.

Saying that she's going to show up on TV and someday flip out anyway, so why not keep dishing out the scotch and crystal meth, is a little bit disingenuous, don't you think?
 
Gill_juve

Gill_juve

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May 29, 2006
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i'm not being niave about it all but i think we will find a way around it. by the half century technology would have advanced soo much more, and global warming is a massive priority and i think that we will be better equiped to deal with this
 
Bjerknes

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Erik-with-a-k said:
I'm aware of the Gulf Stream, we've been hearing about it slowing down since the late 1980's. As it stands though, long-term and diverse measurements carried out by our dear Confederal leaders in Brussels have concluded the Gulf Stream's main influence stretches no further than the British Isles and Northwestern Scandinavia, that being Iceland, Norway and Sweden, excluding Denmark.

It's effect on Northwestern Continental Europe, that being the Denmark, the Benelux, France to just South of Paris and the former West Germany is rather limited.

The slow down of the Gulf Stream would, combined with global warming that would continue as a general process of the Earth's averages, only briefly and moderately cool down Northwestern Europe. Scotland would see significant snowfall again, but the Netherlands wouldn't.

Since the EU's track record with propaganda is absolutely disillusioning to any fascist, I'm inclined to believe them.

Sorry :D
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I'm no expert here (yet) and certainly no expert on European synoptic meteorological phenomena (yet), however I must say that the scenario you are describing would have an effect over synoptic phenomena in Europe. But from what I am hearing scientists seem to be more concerned with the actual change in path of underlying ocean currents, as opposed to just "the slowing." Some scientists seem think that the gulf stream could make a much more southerly u-turn, which would therefore cut off the stream of warmer water to the Nothern Atlantic as a whole. If this were to be the case, the Gulf Stream wouldn't even come close to Europe. And of course without that warm current entering the depths of the Northern Atlantic, the water up in those parts will get chilly pretty quickly.

So from what I have heard, it's more about stopping completely than slowing down. And if this scenario of the Gulf Stream taking an early u-turn actually does ring true... well, sorry. Better hire more meteorologists and climatologists like me to handle the mess. :D
 
Bjerknes

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Elvin said:
Global Warming my ass... -43 degrees in Ontario this week :shocked:

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The exact consequences of "global warming" probably should not be deduced so literally from its name..

We can attribute this crazy weather to our amigo El Niño. I had to deal with a -10F wind chill walking to class here in Pennsylvania this morning.
 
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Andy said:
I'm no expert here (yet) and certainly no expert on European synoptic meteorological phenomena (yet), however I must say that the scenario you are describing would have an effect over synoptic phenomena in Europe. But from what I am hearing scientists seem to be more concerned with the actual change in path of underlying ocean currents, as opposed to just "the slowing." Some scientists seem think that the gulf stream could make a much more southerly u-turn, which would therefore cut off the stream of warmer water to the Nothern Atlantic as a whole. If this were to be the case, the Gulf Stream wouldn't even come close to Europe. And of course without that warm current entering the depths of the Northern Atlantic, the water up in those parts will get chilly pretty quickly.

So from what I have heard, it's more about stopping completely than slowing down. And if this scenario of the Gulf Stream taking an early u-turn actually does ring true... well, sorry. Better hire more meteorologists and climatologists like me to handle the mess. :D
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The Gulf Stream doesn't do a great deal for us in Holland to start with, Andy, that's what they tell us anyway. It affects the British Isles and some weak overflows of the thing reach Iceland and Norway but its effect on the Continental Northwest is overrated. Our 'heat' comes from the Sahara, the Mediterranean. The temperatures of the North Sea show patterns of similarities to those of the Baltic sea and the English Channel but the North Atlantic isn't all that influencial except for one thing: warmer Atlantic waters send storms our way which then traditionally stumble over the North Sea because the Gulf Stream doesn't reach that far.

Honestly (from what I've heard and obviously I didn't study it) I don't think it would have that big an effect.
 
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    Gill_juve said:
    i'm not being niave about it all but i think we will find a way around it. by the half century technology would have advanced soo much more, and global warming is a massive priority and i think that we will be better equiped to deal with this
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    the technology is there already (for the most part)
     
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