Global Financial Crisis (30 Viewers)
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It was a fucking dumb idea to begin with, just like cash for clunkers or whatever. Pulling forward demand and having to deal with the consequences of less demand in the future.
Such inane ideas are always supported by Keynesian economists who are really just socialists. They're fucking idiots, period.
Such inane ideas are always supported by Keynesian economists who are really just socialists. They're fucking idiots, period.
Exactly!! Cash for clunkers what a Fuckin fail. Its the same situation with the government in Fannie and Freddie , GM those entities will keep sucking on the nipple and never succeed. You can't prop up failure it needs to fail. Economics 101 attrition needs to happen so the market can weed out excess
There isn't any use debating anything with you, which is why I rightfully took a harsh approach to your other posts. You are a socialist and that's cool. You don't even understand that every single matter in the US economy is ALREADY conducted through a command and control approach (which you socialists love), which is NOT free market at all. The only delusion is you thinking that the free market is something that can't exist... it's you fucking clowns that don't allow it to happen.
In other words, go fuck yourself.
In other words, go fuck yourself.
Whereas I would think you delusional for believing that a 100% free market can exist. Ordoliberalism, there's another story altogether. But of course as soon as I write 'regulation' you will go off on a diatribe about the Fed and QE and that wall fucking street leechfucks blah blah blah. There's a difference between regulation being a bad idea and regulation being poorly implemented.
An Andrea, poor government policy is why the financial crises happened, be that the Fed and Washington trying to fuck with both the credit market and Wall street like a bunch of idiots, or the Irish government not making contingencies for a housing bust or ensuring that the risk exposure of the banks was too great. Cop on to yourself, your idea of a state is 15th Century, I know this because I know what a state is and how it has evolved, your conceptualisation is archaic, deal with it.
Both of you are completely ignorant of the diverse social systems throughout Europe and yet you seem to think that we all have the same unified version and that it's all pure socialism, your one to fucking talk about multi-vector analysis. Pure Capitalism is as retarded as pure Communism and I can guarantee that neither of them will be seen ever and neither has ever existed in a pure form.
So let's all
And have a pleasant discussion about where our collective and respective economic systems are going and how we think it can be averted.
An Andrea, poor government policy is why the financial crises happened, be that the Fed and Washington trying to fuck with both the credit market and Wall street like a bunch of idiots, or the Irish government not making contingencies for a housing bust or ensuring that the risk exposure of the banks was too great. Cop on to yourself, your idea of a state is 15th Century, I know this because I know what a state is and how it has evolved, your conceptualisation is archaic, deal with it.
Both of you are completely ignorant of the diverse social systems throughout Europe and yet you seem to think that we all have the same unified version and that it's all pure socialism, your one to fucking talk about multi-vector analysis. Pure Capitalism is as retarded as pure Communism and I can guarantee that neither of them will be seen ever and neither has ever existed in a pure form.
So let's all
And have a pleasant discussion about where our collective and respective economic systems are going and how we think it can be averted.
Whereas I would think you delusional for believing that a 100% free market can exist. Ordoliberalism, there's another story altogether. But of course as soon as I write 'regulation' you will go off on a diatribe about the Fed and QE and that wall fucking street leechfucks blah blah blah. There's a difference between regulation being a bad idea and regulation being poorly implemented.
An Andrea, poor government policy is why the financial crises happened, be that the Fed and Washington trying to fuck with both the credit market and Wall street like a bunch of idiots, or the Irish government not making contingencies for a housing bust or ensuring that the risk exposure of the banks was too great. Cop on to yourself, your idea of a state is 15th Century, I know this because I know what a state is and how it has evolved, your conceptualisation is archaic, deal with it.
Both of you are completely ignorant of the diverse social systems throughout Europe and yet you seem to think that we all have the same unified version and that it's all pure socialism, your one to fucking talk about multi-vector analysis. Pure Capitalism is as retarded as pure Communism and I can guarantee that neither of them will be seen ever and neither has ever existed in a pure form.
So let's all
And have a pleasant discussion about where our collective and respective economic systems are going and how we think it can be averted.
An Andrea, poor government policy is why the financial crises happened, be that the Fed and Washington trying to fuck with both the credit market and Wall street like a bunch of idiots, or the Irish government not making contingencies for a housing bust or ensuring that the risk exposure of the banks was too great. Cop on to yourself, your idea of a state is 15th Century, I know this because I know what a state is and how it has evolved, your conceptualisation is archaic, deal with it.
Both of you are completely ignorant of the diverse social systems throughout Europe and yet you seem to think that we all have the same unified version and that it's all pure socialism, your one to fucking talk about multi-vector analysis. Pure Capitalism is as retarded as pure Communism and I can guarantee that neither of them will be seen ever and neither has ever existed in a pure form.
So let's all
And have a pleasant discussion about where our collective and respective economic systems are going and how we think it can be averted.
I never said regulation of the banks is a bad idea. The problem is you know nothing about the sort of regulation we have had over the past two decades that has utterly devastated our economy. We have plenty of regulations, they're just in there to protect certain interests.
Maybe you don't understand the real idea behind capitalism.
This is the only thing you ever have in your arsenal to fall back upon. I don't "know anything about Europe". And you know what, good, I don't give a shit about Europe. Go right ahead and keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Everything is fine. The Euro is a great currency, the EU is a fantastic entity that promotes freedom and democracy for all, and your economies will be recession-free for the rest of time.
It's funny how Americans are looked down upon so much in the world, but in reality, Europeans are becoming just like Americans. Their arrogance trumps all.
Maybe you don't understand the real idea behind capitalism.
This is the only thing you ever have in your arsenal to fall back upon. I don't "know anything about Europe". And you know what, good, I don't give a shit about Europe. Go right ahead and keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Everything is fine. The Euro is a great currency, the EU is a fantastic entity that promotes freedom and democracy for all, and your economies will be recession-free for the rest of time.
It's funny how Americans are looked down upon so much in the world, but in reality, Europeans are becoming just like Americans. Their arrogance trumps all.
Oooooohhhhhhh look at me I'm a socialist little European douchebag ooooohhhhhhh look at me our economies are so great and everyone has healthcare and we can suck each others' cocks at work and oooohhhhhhh we are so better than youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu even though we don't understand that different economies need different currencies to remain competitive ooooooooo.
You know what I find funny as well all these government support all our needs are usually the ones that don't help charities or the poor. That's why they want the government to do it. Like Scrooge in the Christmas Carol " Are there no work houses " in contrast us capitalist pigs are the most charitable nation on earth
That's exactly the perception of american regulation that I have. Is the real idea behind capitalism to have everything privately owned and operated purely for profit regulated by an invisible force that will somehow balance out all transactions over time? Is it somehow deluded to think that this system 'for profit' is not necessarily best suited to ensure the well being of the citizens?
My only thing to fall back on is the fact that you make sweeping generalisations about different countries and societies that have different concepts of the state and how it should run with no knowledge or experience of any of them? I don't think that's a very weak position to come from.
How would you like me to debate with you?
Of course you don't, you've made it abundantly clear that you think we're all a rabble of retarded arrogant dipshits. That's fine that's your opinion but I think you're wrong so I tell you I disagree and say why. I've already told you that I don't think Ireland should be in the Euro due to the same reason you think the Euro is a stupid idea. Why don't you take a step back and look at us and your own country in order to realise that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You're more than matching me in the arrogance stake here buddy
Barack Obama is the poorest excuse for a social democrat that I've ever seen in my entire life. You're ignorant because of statements like these.
I'm legit trying to re-create the constructive debate that was in here but you have to accept that other people, namely those that invent socialism and communism, view in a different light than you do and that the role of the government as' guarantor of physical security' is part of outdated politics. I respect your right to an opinion but also think that if you are saying something that I believe is very wrong or misguided that it needs to be called up on.
My only thing to fall back on is the fact that you make sweeping generalisations about different countries and societies that have different concepts of the state and how it should run with no knowledge or experience of any of them? I don't think that's a very weak position to come from.
How would you like me to debate with you?
Of course you don't, you've made it abundantly clear that you think we're all a rabble of retarded arrogant dipshits. That's fine that's your opinion but I think you're wrong so I tell you I disagree and say why. I've already told you that I don't think Ireland should be in the Euro due to the same reason you think the Euro is a stupid idea. Why don't you take a step back and look at us and your own country in order to realise that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. You're more than matching me in the arrogance stake here buddy
Barack Obama is the poorest excuse for a social democrat that I've ever seen in my entire life. You're ignorant because of statements like these.
I'm legit trying to re-create the constructive debate that was in here but you have to accept that other people, namely those that invent socialism and communism, view in a different light than you do and that the role of the government as' guarantor of physical security' is part of outdated politics. I respect your right to an opinion but also think that if you are saying something that I believe is very wrong or misguided that it needs to be called up on.