Global Financial Crisis (6 Viewers)

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Uh oh, CNBC is having a special report tonight at 8pm, right when Asian markets open up.

This sounds eerily familiar to the Lehman and Bear days.

The potential for a Black Monday is there, but lets see if someone can prop up the markets.

Should be a very interesting night.
 

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JBF

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Aug 5, 2006
18,451
:lol:

A whopping 0.1% GDP increase! BLOW OUT NUMBERS HERE!

It's just too bad that during the Great Depression, even the US had several quarters of positive GDP during the late 20's and the 30's.

And the reason why it happens is because of government spending and the fact that economies don't just go straight down.
The fact that they're even confident their economy is safe with their own staggering 20% unemployment rate and all the shit loans talk is hilarious to say the least :lol:
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,508
Real Madrid must have sold off some property again to balance the books for Spain. :rolleyes:
Maybe they got the real Ronaldo to come back and buy up all the chorizo and paella in sight.

The fact that they're even confident their economy is safe with their own staggering 20% unemployment rate and all the shit loans talk is hilarious to say the least :lol:
It's the typical Keynesian "extend and pretend" mindset. Nothing is wrong, all is well, and it will only get better. All you need to do is buy stocks and go into more debt!
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,508
So our own central bank will bail out Europe.

But you love bailing out Greece, right?

You must.

The IMF's piece of this thing is allegedly €220 billion, or about $286 billion as I type this.

Since the US is "required" to contribute 17% of the IMF's funding, this means you, the taxpayer, have just been hit for $48.6 billion to cover the debts of nations who spend more than they make - and no, they're not the United States (or the states IN The United States.)

It gets better. The Fed's "swaplines" that have been reopened this evening could conceivably pay for part or all of the ECB's foreign bond buying. Remember when Bernanke was asked about this in testimony and he said he had the authority to do this in unlimited amounts? This is no longer a hypothetical.

At the same time this blatant act of financial rape served upon you has come with a 4.18% increase in the price of oil (so far today), which I'm sure you will appreciate at the pump along with the ramp job that gasoline has taken in the last two weeks. At roughly $3 a gallon already, this should add another 12 cents or so to that in the coming days.

Oh, and uh, there's supposed to be this little matter of an appropriation bill in the House of Representatives to fund that IMF "obligation" - before it's incurred. There's this quaint document called "The Constitution" that mandates this.

It, of course, is irrelevant to both Ben Bernanke and, it appears President Obama, who if stories are to be believed prodded the IMF and ECB into spending money he didn't actually have the right to commit (for want of said appropriation bill.)

No matter America.

You're good for it, right? After all, it's not just our banks you have to bail out - we're also required to bail out all the profligate spenders over in Europe too who also can't manage to balance their budgets and, in fact, don't even bother collecting taxes from 70% of the population (in Greece anyway.)

Oh, and there's the matter of the ECB being legally unable to issue credit on its own, to bail anyone out or to directly help one another. To get around that inconvenient part of the founding documents of the ECB they defined a self-imposed fiscal problem caused by their own lies as an "act of God" similar to a hurricane or flood. In short they simply ignored that law too, just like The Fed has for the last two+ years and like Congress does when its members trade on inside information - an act that is legal for them and leads to jailtime for you.

Congratulations America. You've sat on your butts for a sufficient period of time, and allowed enough abuses and usurpations to take place without putting a stop to it that now you've just been ripped for tens of billions of additional dollars and a gas price hike coming down the pipe with both going to feed an organization that is violating its own laws - and is in a foreign land.

PS: That gut-wrenching crash (and yes it was) Thursday? Yeah, you couldn't buy into the bottom of that - nobody except JP Morgan could. The NYSE was on "slow" and the only people routing 1 cent orders for Accenture were from the big banks - for the big banks. They made a fortune rigging the system - again The futures were being quoted at 10 handle spreads, making trading for ordinary humans impossible. Today, you're going to wake up and be unable to buy too, as the DOW futures as I write this are up over 400 points and the S&P is flirting with lock-limit up at +54.75.

You cannot invest or trade in markets that behave this way; it is impossible to go to sleep with a position, either bullish or bearish, and not wake up to find it ridiculously underwater. This isn't "stability" being demonstrated as the Euro folks and Bernanke claim, it is schizophrenia, it's destructive and it's impossible to be involved in a market that behaves this way without eventually waking up to all your money being gone.

It is time to give up folks and leave the machines to themselves.
http://market-ticker.org/archives/2299-But-You-Love-Bailing-Out-Greece,-Right.html
 

JBF

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Aug 5, 2006
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The US will aid Greece not for the love of doing so but to maintain it's (rightful) image of the most dominant nation in the world, and that's what a dominant nation do. Despite the fact that it's unfair to the American people, the ones who deserve these aids if any, afterall they're the ones whose money is being wasted.
 

The Curr

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Feb 3, 2007
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The US will aid Greece not for the love of doing so but to maintain it's (rightful) image of the most dominant nation in the world, and that's what a dominant nation do. Despite the fact that it's unfair to the American people, the ones who deserve these aids if any, afterall they're the ones whose money is being wasted.
Did you read the article?

Since the US is "required" to contribute 17% of the IMF's funding...

That's why they're doing it.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,508
If all Americans understood the unconstitutional chicanery pulled by the Federal Reserve, there would be mass hangings of central bankers and their counterparts on the street.

Or maybe not. These fat, lazy fucktards are probably too busy paying attention to the nonsense located in my avatar.

This country will never learn.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,508
The US will aid Greece not for the love of doing so but to maintain it's (rightful) image of the most dominant nation in the world, and that's what a dominant nation do. Despite the fact that it's unfair to the American people, the ones who deserve these aids if any, afterall they're the ones whose money is being wasted.
This shit won't even go to Greece. The capital will probably be used to bail out European investment banks like SocGen, just like our bailout fund was given to Goldman Sachs.

Of course, these investment banks do absolutely nothing for the real world economy, but that doesn't matter.

Several Coup d'etat's have happened over the years, from the CIA gaining control of the military to foreign usurpers taking over American taxpayer money.

This will not end well at all.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,508
Hell, part of the goddamn TARP fund went to fucking DEUTSCHE BANK, which isn't even an American investment bank.

It's just fucking insanity, too ridiculous to even believe without spurring on laughter.
 

JBF

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Aug 5, 2006
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I've read a translated article (I dunno what newspaper was the one translated from) on a Jordanian newspaper once that the Greece crises was known to the American government about 5-8 years ago and they still asked the Greek to keep it low and in exchange their debt to the Americans will have an interest cut. Did you hear that before Andy?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,508
I've read a translated article (I dunno what newspaper was the one translated from) on a Jordanian newspaper once that the Greece crises was known to the American government about 5-8 years ago and they still asked the Greek to keep it low and in exchange their debt to the Americans will have an interest cut. Did you hear that before Andy?
Yeah, that's just a matter of buying Greek government bonds, which the Federal Reserve have reportedly been buying even as recently as March. Of course, it doesn't matter that these bonds are considered junk bonds and Americans will take a loss on buying them, but hey, who cares. It doesn't matter that it weakens our currency, because who cares about the strength of the dollar.
 

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