Giuseppe 'The Savior' Rossi - ST - Villareal (34 Viewers)

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Ken

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Rossi is a nice little player, quite talented, love watching him, Santi, Nilmar and co carve teams up with their intricate pass and move football. I think a lot of people underrate him, he's improved a lot with Villareal, and he's been one of the top forwards in the past couple of seasons at Villareal, theres a reason why Barca want him.

If the choice was between him and Aguero, which it isn't, because the latter is an unrealistic dream. But if it was, i'd say Aguero definitely is the better choice, one of the best forwards in the world imo, he just needs to move to a bigger team to get the chance to prove it, but he is indeed an amazing player.
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king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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just stats for this season (all games, all competitions, just club games):

Aguero: 41 games, 27 goals (0.66 per game), 7 assists (0.17 per game), average playing time 82 minutes per game
Rossi: 56 games, 32 goals (0.57 per game), 11 assists (0.2 per game), average playing time 80 minutes per game

aguero is about 6 months younger, both are of the same height, aguero can cover more positions (mainly on the wing forward slots), both played for solid teams in la liga (villareal 4th, atletico 5th), both play in thee national team


so where is the 15m price tag difference hiding?
Very good post :tup:

There is actually not a big difference between them. The number of big clubs who have chased Aguero in the past few seasons are not more than those who have chased Rossi. In Juventuz, Rossi's main problem is him being Italian while in the world generally, the difference is that Aguero is a South American player who happens to be Maradona's son in law. Look at Sanchez, he is only 1-2 year(s) younger than Rossi and he has had ONLY one excellent half season with his team. He is now considered a proven champion while Rossi is just an ordinary player who is not worth more than 20m.

Business wise, buying Rossi seems a much better idea than buying Aguero as you bring someone nearly as good as Aguero with a lower price. I'd still pick Aguero over Rossi though only because he is the more versatile player of the two.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Aguero is a much better player than Rossi, come on Hoori. He's a better goal scorer, he's a lot stronger, Aguero is very strong for a player his size mind you, not easily pushed off the ball at all, Aguero is also a much better finisher. Add to that the fact that he can play as the main striker plus he can play as a second striker, while Rossi is more of a second striker only. Aguero is a lot better than Rossi, who isn't Villareal's best striker btw, that title goes to Nilmar.
 

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Rossi is a nice little player, quite talented, love watching him, Santi, Nilmar and co carve teams up with their intricate pass and move football. I think a lot of people underrate him, he's improved a lot with Villareal, and he's been one of the top forwards in the past couple of seasons at Villareal, theres a reason why Barca want him.

If the choice was between him and Aguero, which it isn't, because the latter is an unrealistic dream. But if it was, i'd say Aguero definitely is the better choice, one of the best forwards in the world imo, he just needs to move to a bigger team to get the chance to prove it, but he is indeed an amazing player.
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Dostoevsky

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Aguero is a much better player than Rossi, come on Hoori. He's a better goal scorer, he's a lot stronger, Aguero is very strong for a player his size mind you, not easily pushed off the ball at all, Aguero is also a much better finisher. Add to that the fact that he can play as the main striker plus he can play as a second striker, while Rossi is more of a second striker only. Aguero is a lot better than Rossi, who isn't Villareal's best striker btw, that title goes to Nilmar.
She's biased, though. :wink:
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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In Juventuz, Rossi's main problem is him being Italian while in the world generally, the difference is that Aguero is a South American player who happens to be Maradona's son in law. Look at Sanchez, he is only 1-2 year(s) younger than Rossi and he has had ONLY one excellent half season with his team. He is now considered a proven champion while Rossi is just an ordinary player who is not worth more than 20m.
So now players from Chile are automatically more expensive than players from Italy and the reason Sanchez is wanted by everyone and Rossi isn't is only the fact that Chile happens to be in South America while Italy is in Europe?
Couldn't it be that Sanchez is more expensive and wanted more by the big clubs simply because he's a better player than Rossi?
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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It does seem like her way of addressing the obvious bias against Italian players (which does exist here, lets face it) by being biased to Italian players :D
 

king Ale

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Na, I won't buy that. Aguero is not worth anywhere near that inflated price tag. His only definite advantage over Rossi is his versatility. Rossi finally got his place in the first team this season and he turned out to be one of the best players of La Liga this year. You can't even argue that Aguero had a better season than Rossi had.
 

Fred

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So now players from Chile are automatically more expensive than players from Italy and the reason Sanchez is wanted by everyone and Rossi isn't is only the fact that Chile happens to be in South America while Italy is in Europe?
Couldn't it be that Sanchez is more expensive and wanted more by the big clubs simply because he's a better player than Rossi?
It would have been somewhat acceptable had she said that about Neymar(even though he is twice the player Rossi is too), because he's Brazilian, and Brazilians do tend to get a little over hyped from time to time. But to claim that other South American nation's players get hyped because they're from S.America is a new one to me.
 
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Aguero is a much better player than Rossi, come on Hoori. He's a better goal scorer, he's a lot stronger, Aguero is very strong for a player his size mind you, not easily pushed off the ball at all, Aguero is also a much better finisher. Add to that the fact that he can play as the main striker plus he can play as a second striker, while Rossi is more of a second striker only.
I think that's exaggerated, Rossi has really improved in that respect recently. The strength bit you're right about.

Aguero is a lot better than Rossi, who isn't Villareal's best striker btw, that title goes to Nilmar.
Why? Nilmar hasn't been that prolific throughout his career.
 

Dostoevsky

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It does seem like her way of addressing the obvious bias against Italian players (which does exist here, lets face it) by being biased to Italian players :D
I exaggerate when it comes to prices, I do... many times, especially when I'm nervous. I said he's worth around 20, but he's worth around 30 probably. To sum it up:

IMO Rossi is quality and I did say that many times over the past weeks and he'd be an upgrade here for sure. He'd probably guarantee many goals/assists. On the other hand, I rate Aguero higher and it's as simple as that. I think he's worth 40mln and for that money I think he'd provide more than Rossi and become clubs legend eventually.
 

Fred

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Na, I won't buy that. Aguero is not worth anywhere near that inflated price tag. His only definite advantage over Rossi is his versatility. Rossi finally got his place in the first team this season and he turned out to be one of the best players of La Liga this year. You can't even argue that Aguero had a better season than Rossi had.
I'm not talking about price tags here, that is a different argument, and if you could get Rossi for something around 18-20, it imo will be better than getting Aguero for 45 of course. We're talking about the differences in quality between the two. You claim that Aguero didn't have a better season than Rossi, to which i disagree, i agree that the difference between them this season might not be huge as it has always been in previous seasons, but Aguero still played some great football for Athleti this season. Rossi had his best season to date this year, before this season, the debate of Aguero vs Rossi didn't even occur to anyone.
 

king Ale

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So now players from Chile are automatically more expensive than players from Italy and the reason Sanchez is wanted by everyone and Rossi isn't is only the fact that Chile happens to be in South America while Italy is in Europe?
Couldn't it be that Sanchez is more expensive and wanted more by the big clubs simply because he's a better player than Rossi?
Denilson was once also the most expensive player of the world :agree:

Rossi is just not as loud as Sanchez, that's only because of Sanchez' great technique which makes him hot on the market. By no means does it mean that Sanchez can offer more. It's not the first nor the last one that you see how a player with such characteristics is becoming hyped. Another example is Neymar. Who in his right mind should be ready to splash 40m for a player like him? That's crazy. It just doesn't mean that he's worth 20m (or any) more than Rossi who's got the advantage of being already proven in Europe top leagues.
 

Fred

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I think that's exaggerated, Rossi has really improved in that respect recently. The strength bit you're right about.



Why? Nilmar hasn't been that prolific throughout his career.
I used to watch Nilmar play for Lyon a few years back and he was obviously talented but never really made it. He has exploded this season though, and if it weren't for his injuries, he would undisputedly have been Villareal's best player. When he was on the pitch, it was obvious that he was the superior striker to Rossi imo. The guy was amazing this season
 

Dostoevsky

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Denilson was once also the most expensive player of the world :agree:

Rossi is just not as loud as Sanchez, that's only because of Sanchez' great technique which makes him hot on the market. By no means does it mean that Sanchez can offer more. It's not the first nor the last one that you see how a player with such characteristics is becoming hyped. Another example is Neymar. Who in his right mind should be ready to splash 40m for a player like him? That's crazy. It just doesn't mean that he's worth 20m (or any) more than Rossi who's got the advantage of being already proven in Europe top leagues.
Does this Sanchez reminds you of someone? I think he's exactly like young Ronaldo and I think there's a reason why Ferguson tipped him to be as great as Ronaldo. IMO he'd turn him into one at Manchester.

Rossi is good, no doubt about that. But I don't expect Rossi to hit Rolado's level.
 

king Ale

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I'm not talking about price tags here, that is a different argument, and if you could get Rossi for something around 18-20, it imo will be better than getting Aguero for 45 of course. We're talking about the differences in quality between the two. You claim that Aguero didn't have a better season than Rossi, to which i disagree, i agree that the difference between them this season might not be huge as it has always been in previous seasons, but Aguero still played some great football for Athleti this season. Rossi had his best season to date this year, before this season, the debate of Aguero vs Rossi didn't even occur to anyone.
Yea, he maybe has the ability to dribble his way through a few players but that doesn't make him a better player. Rossi had a better season, no doubt about that.

If Aguero is as good as he is made out to be I wonder why he is still playing in Atletico, a team in the same level with Villareal.
 
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