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Bonucci only wanted Juve. Refused to move out of Italy. We had Milan over a barrel. Beppe went in with no lube. 
Sometimes in football a draw makes both teams winners. Say Juve-Roma in the last round of serie A, where a draw would make us win the scudetto and Roma secure the 4th spot for the CL. Or Denmark-Sweden in 2004
I believe that both Marotta and Leonardo left the meeting with a big smile. Not for defeating the other guy, but for the good deal they made for their own club.
We put a guy on the transfer market and sold him for the asked money (yeah, the option is just a formality in Higgy's case). Milan got a super striker which can take them to CL. We got back a guy we never wanted to leave in first place. And none less but an instrumental player in our WC defense. Milan replaced a player who was going to leave anyway, with a young potential.
Sure, we can never know what the future brings. In a month from now some of these 3 might break a leg. Higuain could score a goal that will cost us a title. Caldara could become a Ranocchia. Bonucci could become a shadow of his former self.
Or maybe Bonucci can be vital in a CL winning defense, Caldara will become a great Italian defender, or Higuain will score goals that will win Milan a CL spot or titles.
The probability is, though, that both teams will benefit a lot from these transfers and they'll both feel like winners for years to come. This won't be a Pirlo for Brncic exchange Milan and Inter did in 2001.
I believe that both Marotta and Leonardo left the meeting with a big smile. Not for defeating the other guy, but for the good deal they made for their own club.
We put a guy on the transfer market and sold him for the asked money (yeah, the option is just a formality in Higgy's case). Milan got a super striker which can take them to CL. We got back a guy we never wanted to leave in first place. And none less but an instrumental player in our WC defense. Milan replaced a player who was going to leave anyway, with a young potential.
Sure, we can never know what the future brings. In a month from now some of these 3 might break a leg. Higuain could score a goal that will cost us a title. Caldara could become a Ranocchia. Bonucci could become a shadow of his former self.
Or maybe Bonucci can be vital in a CL winning defense, Caldara will become a great Italian defender, or Higuain will score goals that will win Milan a CL spot or titles.
The probability is, though, that both teams will benefit a lot from these transfers and they'll both feel like winners for years to come. This won't be a Pirlo for Brncic exchange Milan and Inter did in 2001.
You have a point, but you still can't compare the Höwedes deal to this one.
Notice how long negotiations have taken for this deal, and the money involved.
Higuain is a goalscoring guarantee, and he will be for 3-4 more seasons. Milan haven't had a superstar bomber like this since Ibra. They're not gonna send him back after 12 months. Especially not after having paid 18 million euros for the loan.
Notice how long negotiations have taken for this deal, and the money involved.
Higuain is a goalscoring guarantee, and he will be for 3-4 more seasons. Milan haven't had a superstar bomber like this since Ibra. They're not gonna send him back after 12 months. Especially not after having paid 18 million euros for the loan.
I think it's not possible to get a player like Higuain with an option to buy. The option is for Estigarribia or injury plagued Howedes. Maybe, for some financial gymnastics or things I don't quite understand, it will be presented as option, but I can't imagine it being just an option.
Higuain is too big star not to secure his future. He knows his time in Juve is over and he knows he'll be almost 33 when his contract with us expires. Milan is either his last chance for a big paycheck, or a step towards the last fat paycheck.
Higuain is too big star not to secure his future. He knows his time in Juve is over and he knows he'll be almost 33 when his contract with us expires. Milan is either his last chance for a big paycheck, or a step towards the last fat paycheck.
Sometimes in football a draw makes both teams winners. Say Juve-Roma in the last round of serie A, where a draw would make us win the scudetto and Roma secure the 4th spot for the CL. Or Denmark-Sweden in 2004
I believe that both Marotta and Leonardo left the meeting with a big smile. Not for defeating the other guy, but for the good deal they made for their own club.
We put a guy on the transfer market and sold him for the asked money (yeah, the option is just a formality in Higgy's case). Milan got a super striker which can take them to CL. We got back a guy we never wanted to leave in first place. And none less but an instrumental player in our WC defense. Milan replaced a player who was going to leave anyway, with a young potential.
Sure, we can never know what the future brings. In a month from now some of these 3 might break a leg. Higuain could score a goal that will cost us a title. Caldara could become a Ranocchia. Bonucci could become a shadow of his former self.
Or maybe Bonucci can be vital in a CL winning defense, Caldara will become a great Italian defender, or Higuain will score goals that will win Milan a CL spot or titles.
The probability is, though, that both teams will benefit a lot from these transfers and they'll both feel like winners for years to come. This won't be a Pirlo for Brncic exchange Milan and Inter did in 2001.
I believe that both Marotta and Leonardo left the meeting with a big smile. Not for defeating the other guy, but for the good deal they made for their own club.
We put a guy on the transfer market and sold him for the asked money (yeah, the option is just a formality in Higgy's case). Milan got a super striker which can take them to CL. We got back a guy we never wanted to leave in first place. And none less but an instrumental player in our WC defense. Milan replaced a player who was going to leave anyway, with a young potential.
Sure, we can never know what the future brings. In a month from now some of these 3 might break a leg. Higuain could score a goal that will cost us a title. Caldara could become a Ranocchia. Bonucci could become a shadow of his former self.
Or maybe Bonucci can be vital in a CL winning defense, Caldara will become a great Italian defender, or Higuain will score goals that will win Milan a CL spot or titles.
The probability is, though, that both teams will benefit a lot from these transfers and they'll both feel like winners for years to come. This won't be a Pirlo for Brncic exchange Milan and Inter did in 2001.
I tend to fail the pain of a coming disaster in advance.
Like when you discover a cancer to a man, completely unaware of his condition. Although seemingly quite fine ATM, you know what's coming to him and that there is no escape from this.
This is when i mourn him, not when he stops coming for checkups after two years...
Of course he must fight till the very last breath, but shouldn't he know what this means?
There is always someone trying to sugarcoat it and claim that some ppl even get to survive more than 5 years, this is how i see your post.
Personally, today i feel like we just lost another CL final, maybe 2 of them.
I know that's not healthy to feel that way, but sugarcoating it, lying to ourselves and others, what's the benefit from this?
Why denying that Bonucci has a toxic character? Even if you disagree that he is a make player too?
Why denying that Caldara at this age has a higher market value and a straight swap deals a financial blow to Juve?
Why denying that Max has a soft spot for Bonucci and he is not just another player who will not harm if he doesn't succeed and be put on the bench?
Why denying the significance of Bonucci's presence to our formation and the necessary changes to accommodate him there?
Like those past 6-9 years never happened?
Well it was obvious we were looking for another experienced defender (like Godin etc.), and Bonucci really came out of nowhere and looked like a great opportunity, also his signing gave us a chance to finally offload Higuain.
We basically improved our defense significantly, and Barzagli will have Howedes role this year, and actually real role and not spend whole season on the treatment table.
We basically improved our defense significantly, and Barzagli will have Howedes role this year, and actually real role and not spend whole season on the treatment table.
