Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,028
I'm his biggest dick-rider and I already said I'll be extremely annoyed if we sell Pogba. We need to stop acting like little bitches when it comes to holding onto star players. Enough is enough.
Tbh I'll be more annoyed with our owners, considering the insane turnover they make from other venues and their unwillingness to invest into the club. But he has fair share of blame as well.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
80,960
Tbh I'll be more annoyed with our owners, considering the insane turnover they make from other venues and their unwillingness to invest into the club. But he has fair share of blame as well.
I'd be less annoyed if we were selling him to Barca or Madrid. Those teams usually get their players whenever they want them. But why can't we convince a player (who has 3 years remaining on his contract) to stick around for at least another season of two, and aim for the CL with us? To lose our star player to a shit Man U team who aren't even in the CL is a poor look for us and Italian football in general.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,760
I'd be less annoyed if we were selling him to Barca or Madrid. Those teams usually get their players whenever they want them. But why can't we convince a player (who has 3 years remaining on his contract) to stick around for at least another season of two, and aim for the CL with us? To lose our star player to a shit Man U team who aren't even in the CL is a poor look for us and Italian football in general.
Exactly. It's an embarrassment
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,626
Last season I gave 7/10 cause I felt they made the most out of it. IMO Pirlo was finished, Tevez already disinterested in the final and I wouldnt want that version of him in my team either, Vidal also lost didnt have his usual impact and struggling with injuries for a good while understandable not offeting him a long contract and let him sign with bayern.
In return we also got some major promising prospect Dybala, Sandro and the excuse of transitional year.

Right now tho, Im on the edge of Cronios mode. All them shit sells, free releases, Hernanes panic buy are coming back. And if this happens, definitely there will be some generic statements in the lines, they wanted to leave, we cant compete blah, even though we most likely will continue to fail properly offload decent but unwanted players.

This sucks major balls.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
11,411
We all know he's a GOAT on a budget. Let's see how he performs with mega money. A lot of pressure on him. I think he will deliver.


Still hate our selling policy though. We should not let players turn up one day and tell us they fancy a change, and be OK with that.
 

j0ker

Capo di tutti capi
Jan 5, 2006
22,892
We all know he's a GOAT on a budget. Let's see how he performs with mega money. A lot of pressure on him. I think he will deliver.


Still hate our selling policy though. We should not let players turn up one day and tell us they fancy a change, and be OK with that.
:agree:

I remember from Pirlo's autobiography when he wanted to join RM and Milan told him no and convinced him to stay.

Plenty other examples.
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,352
We all know he's a GOAT on a budget. Let's see how he performs with mega money. A lot of pressure on him. I think he will deliver.


Still hate our selling policy though. We should not let players turn up one day and tell us they fancy a change, and be OK with that.
That's why we need to invest more on Italian talents as Italian players are the only ones who are relatively loyal to us and won't want to move abroad. The standards of Italian players right now isn't great and that's why we need to keep improving our youth policy.

Our academy needs to produce better prospects.

I'm hopeful that Mandragora can be the next Italian talent to break in our team.

I agree that we're too soft though, and we should stop dealing with Raiola.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
11,411
It just allows players to use us as stepping stones for big money moves. We are still one of the very best teams on the pitch, but if we continue to bend over and let our top players leave us so easily sooner or later we won't be. Players playing out of position/not getting enough minutes etc are usually sold off without too much of a fight. That is understandable.

Star players at top teams, playing every time they're fit and getting hefty contracts however are usually told to stfu and get on with it.


Hell look at ADL, he's a fucking idiot but he's done a better job of pressuring Higuain in to staying than we have with Pogba. And unlike the Pogba situation, Higuains price is only going to plummet from now on in. Even if Higuain leaves, Napoli done all they could do stop it. We done fuck all.

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That's why we need to invest more on Italian talents as Italian players are the only ones who are relatively loyal to us and won't want to move abroad. The standards of Italian players right now isn't great and that's why we need to keep improving our youth policy.

Our academy needs to produce better prospects.

I'm hopeful that Mandragora can be the next Italian talent to break in our team.

I agree that we're too soft though, and we should stop dealing with Raiola.
The problem is, especially in the creative and attacking department Italy aren't producing jack shit atm. So even if we can start churning out some talent in the future we probably won't be seeing the benefits for a decade. Although ideally yes, would be great to have a stacked team of Italians. Such a thing is impossible right now sadly.
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,352
It just allows players to use us as stepping stones for big money moves. We are still one of the very best teams on the pitch, but if we continue to bend over and let our top players leave us so easily sooner or later we won't be. Players playing out of position/not getting enough minutes etc are usually sold off without too much of a fight. That is understandable.

Star players at top teams, playing every time they're fit and getting hefty contracts however are usually told to stfu and get on with it.


Hell look at ADL, he's a fucking idiot but he's done a better job of pressuring Higuain in to staying than we have with Pogba. And unlike the Pogba situation, Higuains price is only going to plummet from now on in. Even if Higuain leaves, Napoli done all they could do stop it. We done fuck all.

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The problem is, especially in the creative and attacking department Italy aren't producing jack shit atm. So even if we can start churning out some talent in the future we probably won't be seeing the benefits for a decade. Although ideally yes, would be great to have a stacked team of Italians. Such a thing is impossible right now sadly.
There are some good prospects in midfield. Mandragora, Vitale, Sensi and Clemenza could become good players.

In attack though...
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
I'd be less annoyed if we were selling him to Barca or Madrid. Those teams usually get their players whenever they want them. But why can't we convince a player (who has 3 years remaining on his contract) to stick around for at least another season of two, and aim for the CL with us? To lose our star player to a $#@! Man U team who aren't even in the CL is a poor look for us and Italian football in general.
Exactly. It's an embarrassment
Im really starting to think that sadly we are at our limit alreayd when it comes to top players in their prime.

And is not totally our fault. If we were as succesfull as we are, but in the premier league...Juventus would be swimming on millions and doing pogba deals left ad right.

Guys lets be honest for a moment...serie A is a POOR LEAGUE WITHOUT APPEAL. We can win all the scudetto we want, but if the league continue being this terribad... with no international appeal....sooner or later players who are not italian will get tired of steamrolling and will want better paychecks or another motivation to prove themselves.

In the past, Del Piero and co. had to year in year out fare against the bests, they had no need to find motivation because the motivation was always there in front of them.

Now, when you see outside Juve... all what can be grasped is a plethora of teams lost in the darkness, poor as fuck and without any idea of what they are doing....Juve on the other hand... is an unstopable titan which can even have the worst star in the story of the league and win it anwyays.

Teams are really hadicapped against us, is a joke alredy.

Obviously this is not our fault.... but the damage the league is doing to Juventus is already palpable. Just look at Pogba. It seems he got bored of winning scudettos without competition, and is looking for a motivation AKA a fat paycheck.

This will maybe not be the last time we will see this happening. In 2 years, it will be Dybala for sure.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I'd be less annoyed if we were selling him to Barca or Madrid. Those teams usually get their players whenever they want them. But why can't we convince a player (who has 3 years remaining on his contract) to stick around for at least another season of two, and aim for the CL with us? To lose our star player to a shit Man U team who aren't even in the CL is a poor look for us and Italian football in general.
Says more about the player IMO. I agree with the last statement but again, to head to a team with no CL after taking the #10 less than a year ago speaks volumes of his character.
 

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