Eljo

Junior Member
Nov 29, 2013
178
careful, little boy. him wanting bayen has nothing to do with price. can you understand that?
your train of thought is not logical to me. him wanting bayern and bayern only has a HUGE influence on his price if you ask me. or has juventus suddenly become athletic and terrorize our players? I know your salty about his departure, but try to think logically and with empathy towards vidal and our management. i know its hard, cause you love to hate on the internets, its just so easy. but thinking, now thats hard.
 

Eljo

Junior Member
Nov 29, 2013
178
Logical Fallacy. People don't always have to get what they want. How old are you?
Using "big" words doesnt mean you understand them it seems. Of course we all wanted vidal to stay and thought if some random big club like man utd comes for him, we cant sell below 60M. But him wanting bayern changes that perception massively, at least for me, because having a player at my club who wants to play somewhere else is like having a girlfriend who wants to fuck someone else. I cannot be bothered with both.

Juve cannot become athletic or some random dictator club, we are the old lady and old ladies have class. I know empathy is very hard, especially when you havent come to term with your existence, and would rather spew nonsense on a forum. Things that are happening at juve have no barring on your life. It gives you entertainment, like the rest of us. So try to think about decisions (and actions) juve make logically and objectively see the facts, that WE KNOW. dont kid yourself that every detail of any transfer is available publicly, let alone player (agent) / management talks.

I think like most humans, vidal wanted to fulfill his childhood dream. And because our rapport with him was so good, we let him go do just that. Cause we are the old lady.

E: im 24 and i realize i dont have as much life exeperience compared to a 34yr old, but i think my thought process is valid. and given that we dont share afk life experiences, i have trouble understanding yours.
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
If Vidal really wants to go, you let him go only if he express his desire formally.

And you sell him at YOUR conditions - at your timing, after setting apart the adequate replacement, IF you are able to find one.

This isn't hard to understand. The guy has a contract. There are 3 parties. The deal was done for 100% satisfaction of 2 of them, while a 3rd got fucked in the process, with the low price and doing it too quick, without a proper replacement plan.

So you have to fit in the interests of all 3 parties to make it happen, and that's not what happened. It's as simple as that.

It was disastrous from the day it happened, as it looked at the time, and we are seeing the consequences now. It triggered a mess of a transfer market, that led to a mess of a team.

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a lot of the issues the teams has will be fixed once marchisio, morata and one of asamoah or khedira are fit.

morata will fix the woeful goal scoring. and marchsio and asamoah will fix the lack of drive and link ups in the midfield.

henanes should never be near the first team as long as cuadrado is fit. cuadrado should be given free role
Don't count on Asamoah. Have restricted expectations on Khedira. The rest I agree, even though I think they will partially fix it, not fully.
 

j0ker

Capo di tutti capi
Jan 5, 2006
22,892
If Vidal really wants to go, you let him go only if he express his desire formally.
How do you know that he didn't?

Evdn journalists don't know shit most of the time, but here on 'tuz everyone is an expert on what happens behind the scenes.

Not directed specially on you, but my point is we don't know shit.
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
7,166
How do you know that he didn't?

Evdn journalists don't know $#@! most of the time, but here on 'tuz everyone is an expert on what happens behind the scenes.

Not directed specially on you, but my point is we don't know $#@!.
Because of what Marotta said. He said he called Vidal and Vidal said he wanted a new experience, he wanted to go to Bayern. And that was that. This is how one express his desire, but not formally.

Instead, Marotta should have insisted on Vidal, spent time trying to convince him, dragged the situation a little bit, made him expressly make his wishes registred and formal in a letter, made an auction, tried to get a higher bid, while looking for a replacement.

And guess what. If Bayern can't satisfy the price demands, and we can't lined up replacement - Marotta keeps Vidal. We just should take things our way, more than Bayern's way, because we are the ones who conduct the process.
 

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