Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
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ah yes so none of those is marotta's fault? so when u go for a player but aren't prepared to offer wages to entice said player, what happens then?

failure is what happens/
He made a reasonable offer. But when EPL or Barcelona comes and offer you right out of the market, there is few you can do.


There is nothing wrong with trying. If city didnt step in, we might aswel have gotten him
 

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Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
and we are back to square one with my point about gotze and draxler!

so why are you arguing with me again?

maybe take the time to read posts instead of just reading marotta not good and going crazy?
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
and we are back to square one with my point about gotze and draxler!

so why are you arguing with me again?

maybe take the time to read posts instead of just reading marotta not good and going crazy?
You were spewing bile on Marotta about previous years, and you are offcourse completely wrong.

Götze ? We find agreement with club and player reported many times, but every time its "Götze has to decide". This shit can happen, its allways worth the try. His agent was giving warnings, so its fair to think he wanted out.

Draxler ? Its about complete
 
Mar 9, 2006
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People seriously arguing with the ex-muslim from canada :lol:

Marotta did pretty well this summer- we needed to refresh our squad and he delivered, a change of generations is always difficult to pass, you can't replace Pirlo, Tevez, Vidal in one day even if you have arab money on your bank account
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
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You were spewing bile on Marotta about previous years, and you are offcourse completely wrong.

Götze ? We find agreement with club and player reported many times, but every time its "Götze has to decide". This shit can happen, its allways worth the try. His agent was giving warnings, so its fair to think he wanted out.

Draxler ? Its about complete
how am I wrong? everytime negotiations dragged on, we lost our target. explain to me how I am wrong about this. pls I am waiting.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
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in the real world, yes. but to answer that, and to answer @swag who says why don't we be patient. it's because we always, always miss out on our targets when the transfers drag out, because other clubs always swoop in.

Aguero 2011
Van Persie and Sanchez 2012
Jovetic 2013
Sanchez 2014

do u see the trend here?
He made a reasonable offer. But when EPL or Barcelona comes and offer you right out of the market, there is few you can do.


There is nothing wrong with trying. If city didnt step in, we might aswel have gotten him


anything else?
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Lion, if no club should attempt to buy a player because at some point an EPL team or barcelona would step in, then there'd be bitter few transfers.

We try to convince the player for our project, player waits out, sometimes you get the player (vidal), sometimes EPL comes and snatches him(sanchez, aguero, jovetic)



At the same time, its possible Madrid suddenly decides they want a 5th CAM and move for Götze, and he rejects them to stay with guardiola aswel afterall

Stockholm syndrome etc
 

HAZEM

L'architetto
Apr 22, 2008
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Why do you guys feel offended whenever anyone criticize Marotta ? Serious question.

The man isn't perfect, he did some great deals in the past (personally I've apreciated he's deal with leverkusen when we signed Vidal because we've got one of the best Bundesliga players for a decent $, same thing happened with the Tevez deal). But he had some average or even $#@!ty deals in the past (remember the 13 mil we paid for jorge martinez !! Or Elia, giovinco who we sold his half for Parma for a mere 3 mil just to pay 11 mil the next summer to get him back and a couple of years later he's gone. He's the guy who pushed the management at the time to hire Del neri and we all know the rest.

I know that no one is perfect and anyone would've done similar mistakes if they were in his position that's totally understandable. But the bottom line here is that the man is not perfect, he did some great deals and he did some $#@!ty deals in the past so when people here including myself criticize him it should be normal.

Pro- Marotta people right now are saying that 37 mil price tag of Vidal is decent money, but when we paid almost exact sum to dybala just this summer they thought that prices are inflated in the market and its a reasonable fee for the guy !!

Vidal is one the best (if not the best CM) in the game right now, the man has a huge experience playing in Europe and was one best players in the coppa America tournament that just ended while dybala just a youngster who had 1 break through season in a very weak Serie A and the two are priced the same ! How is that even possible ?

Ask any non Juve supporter and he'll tell you that it's one of weirdest transfer that they've seen. ask Fred, the man had been around this forum for a very long time and pretty certain he'll agree with that.

Again this is just a forum where people have different opinions, and people criticizing Marotta have a very reasonable points that they're rising here.
Marotta did great transfers also did stupid ones. although his great ones are slightly more and effective.
i will never forgive him for missing on Verratti who was completely cheap and above everything he wanted to join us. but he didn't want to pay this extra 2 millions :facepalm2:
and i agree that this Vidal sell is cheap. there is no reason to justify this low price. Vidal is +50 mil at least.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
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Is it marotta's fault we can not get player because of price problem?
that's odd. he had no problem paying 40m for some guy who had one good season, and only scored 13 goals. on his last year of contract :howler:

but god forbid we bid that amount on world class players. oh no then we are broke and poor and we have nothing
 

Valentino

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that's odd. he had no problem paying 40m for some guy who had one good season, and only scored 13 goals. on his last year of contract :howler:

but god forbid we bid that amount on world class players. oh no then we are broke and poor and we have nothing
I think Dybala is huge in Paratici's eye, thats why we paid 40mill for him.
 

Dino_mk

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Sep 5, 2007
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that's odd. he had no problem paying 40m for some guy who had one good season, and only scored 13 goals. on his last year of contract :howler:

but god forbid we bid that amount on world class players. oh no then we are broke and poor and we have nothing
One problem with ur logic

Dubala: 32m + 5 years x 2m wages = 42m (maybe plus 8m bonuses)

Gotze: 40m + 5 years x 6,5(or 7)m wages = approx. 75m

see the difference?!
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
of course there is going to be the difference.

one is an international superstar

the other is nobody. how may outside of italy and serie a know of dybala? answer: 8 people
 

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