Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
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but you don't know shit like anyone else? how could you possibly know how you'll perform next season? for all you know, you could face a tougher group that you did this year and that's very possible since this years was quite easy tbh. there's nothing to say that individual errors won't cost you again or that your new signings would need more time to gel with the team. you keep contradicting your own arguments it's not even easy to follow you.

and i'm sorry i can't take you seriously when you overhype ranocchia of all players like that. it's ranocchia who failed to understand how to run properly at inter. if you guys can only attract players like him, ur in serious trouble.
Women, be silent when i talk about defenders. You dont know nothing about the very concept, and dont understand football anyway. To understand why ranocchia is a raw diamond, you need more brains then you have.

We have our starting 11. Any idiot can see we wont change the starting 11 but will work with the bench. Meaning we'll have a good teamsynergy right of the start. Juventus playing to its potential will not have any issue with any group it goes in. We can beat any team in pot 2 or 3.

Your comment about ranocchia is hilarious. Seriously, stick to make up and dolls, and stop interrupting us when we talk football.

Please, can you?
No, because i got some stuff to say about football, unlike you. So please remove yourself again.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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All Nztard does is attack peoples posts without ever offering up his own opinion.
Maybe the rat realises nobody values his opinion

As for Rano, he has potential. It might take a while to unlock but it's there.
 

Klovn

#MakeTuzGreatAgain
Jul 28, 2011
21,859
All Nztard does is attack peoples posts without ever offering up his own opinion.
Maybe the rat realises nobody values his opinion

As for Rano, he has potential. It might take a while to unlock but it's there.
Atleast he hasn't said anything retarded and stupid, such as that Llorente isn't Juve material.
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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:lol:


Also, I clarified my statement about Llo several times.

Unless we build our attack around him which means sacrificing the superior striker in Tevez, I am not confident Llo can lead the line for us. So yeah, if an opportunity arised I would replace him.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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I like Llorente and he's good asset to have, but he's not clinical striker. Rarely has been during his career. Along with him I'd like Juve to have a striker who's able to run behind defenders, more of a poacher style. Having for instance someone like Immobile would give us nice diversity in that respect.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
:lol:


Also, I clarified my statement about Llo several times.

Unless we build our attack around him which means sacrificing the superior striker in Tevez, I am not confident Llo can lead the line for us. So yeah, if an opportunity arised I would replace him.
Wait for next season with judgement mate. Especially in his situation

I like Llorente and he's good asset to have, but he's not clinical striker. Rarely have been during his career. Along with him I'd like Juve to have a striker who's able to run behind defenders, more of a poacher style. Having for instance someone like Immobile would give us nice diversity in that respect.
Immobile remains target 1 for the summer for me, for that exact reason
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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Never seen him on 80%? What is this nonsense.

I would enquire about Mandzukic and see if he was at a reasonable price. Because getting the best out of Llorente means shoving Tevez out of position and hindering a superior players output to help an inferior one is stupid

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For the record if we never had Tevez I would love to see Llo being serviced by two wingers. But that is not possible now.

In 352 he's far too limited for my liking
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
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First of all, the percentage thing is just crazy. There's no way you can accurately measure thst.

Yes, at times Llorente has been clost to his Bilbao best. But to get the absolute best from him you NEED wingers who can supply him with crosses. To accomodate Llorente AND a winger or two, Tevez must be sacrificed. And I would never shove Tevez into an unfamiliar role for the benefit of Llorente.

That's like moving Vidal to play Isla in his old RCM role where he looked impressive at Udinese
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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In 352 he's far too limited for my liking
Not really, when somewhat in form he is an integral part of the Juventus 3-5-2, as his play with the back to the goal is fantastic, as showcased from octobre to january or so.
Wingbacks who can actually cross, such as an Udinese-Isla would of course dramatically increase his goal tally, but I don't really see any attainable player capable of doing that while simultaniuosly providing the same defensive cover Asamoah and Lichtsteiner do.

He was playing great a few months ago, and now he undergoes somewhat of a slump, but it is far to early to write him off, especially considering his predicament last season.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Not really, when somewhat in form he is an integral part of the Juventus 3-5-2, as his play with the back to the goal is fantastic, as showcased from octobre to january or so.
Wingbacks who can actually cross, such as an Udinese-Isla would of course dramatically increase his goal tally, but I don't really see any attainable player capable of doing that while simultaniuosly providing the same defensive cover Asamoah and Lichtsteiner do.

He was playing great a few months ago, and now he undergoes somewhat of a slump, but it is far to early to write him off, especially considering his predicament last season.
Pretty much his good form period. I expect him to start at at least that level next season. Its logical after last year that he needs to find how to be consistant again, and is suffering from all these games. But it will serve him well for next year.


Another thing. Pirlo said today how he tought Pogba would be great when used in wider area's for his explosiveness that he could exploit it more there.
Whilst i dont neccecarely agree, i can recall at least 3 times this year, where Pogba was close to the side, and launched a high pass/early cross into the box on wich we scored with a header.
With more time, Pogby should be demanding the ball more as he grows more confident. He could trow the ball in the box instead
 

Klovn

#MakeTuzGreatAgain
Jul 28, 2011
21,859
First of all, the percentage thing is just crazy. There's no way you can accurately measure thst.
Nope, not if you have followed a player for years. And know everything he is capable of and what he isn't. Example: At Athletic his passing was one of his biggest strength, look at him now. He can barely make a two meter pass.

Yes, at times Llorente has been clost to his Bilbao best.
Nope, not even close.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
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All Nztard does is attack peoples posts without ever offering up his own opinion.
Maybe the rat realises nobody values his opinion

As for Rano, he has potential. It might take a while to unlock but it's there.
:tup: for the 1st part

Ranocchia definetly has potential. the supporting cast, the coach, motivation, playing time, competition all these factors can be decisive for a player to play good/bad. if you look at United this year, its the same team as last year that won the league and almost eliminated Real. its the same RVP that scored over 30 goals etc. my point is players perform different in different circumstances and Ranocchia is (to me) a guy that would be great in a system where he is used right (unlike in a disorganized and not balanced Inter side), so playing here alongside our players that work well TOGETHER as an unit would make any player better than he is...

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Pogba has a good cross on him. But our wide players are way too inconsistent when crossing. Only way to get Llo the service he needs is to change wing backs. But that would compromise our defence
im fine with Llorente. ofcourse, having a healthy RVP along with this Tevez would be a disaster for the opposition, but Llorente has, since he joined, always worked hard, having one or two players carrying on his back, droping very deep (to the center even) to get the ball - hes practically used out of position, running at the opposite defenders and still he managed to get 13 goals and a couple of assists (could be more as he had some great passes this season) and all of this after practically a season out and getting throught the worst summer of his life (Contes season preparations :D). in his second season i can see him (after he got along with the team and a suumer out because of the WC) being even better and a serious thread to all teams in the CL...
 

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