JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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It's really strange how we keep signing 28-29 year old average attackers like osvaldo, even though we have one of the best young attackers in the league right in immobile scoring goals left and right.

Makes one wonder do we even have any strategy in buying and selling players .
And then blame the players when we can't sell them. Retardation par excellence!
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
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There is no exception, Marotta is nothing what some members make him to be. I give him credit to great signings he made but being a sport director is not only buying some good players on a good price.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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It's really strange how we keep signing 28-29 year old average attackers like osvaldo, even though we have one of the best young attackers in the league right in immobile scoring goals left and right.

Makes one wonder do we even have any strategy in buying and selling players .
Immobile is developing over there and playing all the time. We shouldn't consider him as our 3rd striker, not yet anyways. Like he'd place either Tevez or Llorente on the bench...
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
It's really strange how we keep signing 28-29 year old average attackers like osvaldo, even though we have one of the best young attackers in the league right in immobile scoring goals left and right.

Makes one wonder do we even have any strategy in buying and selling players .
Exactly. It's some kind of fetish with buying those close-to-30 strikers. They get nice salary which they can't get elsewhere due to age. Matri is the only exception but you have to thank bbilan for that they gave him better salary than he was getting here and he was in so poor form for a long time.

Anyone who says we can't sign 30m+ players should shut up from now on. No doubt we can't sign world class players when we paid 50 million for three $#@!s called Matri, Martinez and Osvaldo(don't think he will return there).

Marotta is the economic gap between Juventus and top clubs.
This is kinda true. Imagine those excuses in the summer that there's no money for big signings while we'll spend at least 15m for Osvaldo while we could just bring back Immobile after the season ends and save up a lot of money.

When there's no talents available people complain about our youth sucking donkey balls. When there are young players performing in Serie A there's always an excuse not to bring them back. Immobile is in perfect age and situation to come back here imo. This is how you find a new Lewandowski, not by buying some troublemaker reject from EPL.

Immobile is developing over there and playing all the time. We shouldn't consider him as our 3rd striker, not yet anyways. Like he'd place either Tevez or Llorente on the bench...
Why not? He's made a huge step forward this season. Why do you think he'd prefer to stay there while he could be here competing for scudetto and playing in CL? Better salary, better team, better coach and so on. The club should think a bit more forward too imo. Lloretne is not exactly young and by the time he'd leave/hit the bench you would have a relatively young and proved forward to take his place.

The management should consider bringing back Immobile. While we can argue about Berardi who is still very young and Gabbiadini who is a bit inconsistent - Immobile has everything to be brought back.
 

Emmet

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Apr 5, 2006
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I like Marotta, I'm not against him or approve of him, the man couldn't sell water in the desert, but he has got us some bargains.

If he signs Osvaldo for 20m however, he loses all my respect
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Recalling youngsters now mid-season makes no sense. They need time to adjust to their new team and the new environement of a top-club, and that time just isn't there in January. And who says that our management isn't planning on loaning Osvaldo 'till the summer to bring back some young forwards then? That would be a really smart move IMO.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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Why not? He's made a huge step forward this season. Why do you think he'd prefer to stay there while he could be here competing for scudetto and playing in CL? Better salary, better team, better coach and so on. The club should think a bit more forward too imo. Lloretne is not exactly young and by the time he'd leave/hit the bench you would have a relatively young and proved forward to take his place.

The management should consider bringing back Immobile. While we can argue about Berardi who is still very young and Gabbiadini who is a bit inconsistent - Immobile has everything to be brought back.
Because of what I said earlier. Look how many minutes our strikers got so far after 21 rounds in league, Coppa, CL:

Vucinic 479, Giovinco 447, Quag 654 minutes.

Why should he come here at the moment when he's developing to play around 500 minutes after so many matches? In Torino he has like triple of those minutes. Wages, CL competition (where he wouldn't even play) has nothing to do with this.

I still believe we'll use him to buy some winger from Serie A (Cerci, Guadrado).
 

LiquidPLP

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Jun 9, 2012
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Because of what I said earlier. Look how many minutes our strikers got so far after 21 rounds in league, Coppa, CL:

Vucinic 479, Giovinco 447, Quag 654 minutes.

Why should he come here at the moment when he's developing to play around 500 minutes after so many matches? In Torino he has like triple of those minutes. Wages, CL competition (where he wouldn't even play) has nothing to do with this.

I still believe we'll use him to buy some winger from Serie A (Cerci, Guadrado).
And in two-three years time we'll look for a starting CF and the crying about lack of money will be heard loud and clear again.

My feeling is the same we'll give him away for Cerci IMO. That will be a mistake in longer term even if Cerci does well here.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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And in two-three years time we'll look for a starting CF and the crying about lack of money will be heard loud and clear again.

My feeling is the same we'll give him away for Cerci IMO. That will be a mistake in longer term even if Cerci does well here.
You say things like the success of Immobile here (or at any big club) is written in the stone.

As for the 'mistake', we can always own his half and give him a try sooner or later.
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
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You say things like the success of Immobile here (or at any big club) is written in the stone.

As for the 'mistake', we can always own his half and give him a try sooner or later.
Nothing you can take for granted yeah. I think Osvaldo will be the bigger flop here than Immobile considering how much Osvaldo will cost. We won't give those 19m yeah but I don't think Marotta will manage to drop it under 15m. 15m for him will be a steal ... by Southampton.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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Nothing you can take for granted yeah. I think Osvaldo will be the bigger flop here than Immobile considering how much Osvaldo will cost. We won't give those 19m yeah but I don't think Marotta will manage to drop it under 15m. 15m for him will be a steal ... by Southampton.
You can forget about Immobile, done deal as he was promised to Torino. Agreement might be verbal one, but we've established good relations with our city rival and we're not about to compromise that over a youngster. We'll probably have few other dealings with them next summer; Cerci. :klin: I know @Bianconero81 will be thrilled yet again.
Cerci-Osvaldo :tuttosport:
 

Amer

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2005
11,340
This team has the foundation, what we need in June are quality players that can lead the team. I liked Marotta's concept from last summer when he added just three players: Tevez, Nando and Ogbonna. IMO this is the right strategy. We have enough depth players, now it's time to add more quality and fight for CL next year.
 

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