Giuseppe Marotta (80 Viewers)

[oldlady87]

 

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[Gep]

Who will even be challenging ?

Milan ? Depending on the form of the ref, they might end as close as 10 points under us. 15 before they get knocked out of the CL groups

Inter, maybe half their squad is back from injury after the preseason, maybe. Maybe they manage to win a game before december. Maybe they wont get relegated

Fiorentina ? Not in the cl, and probably losing jovetic and possibly lullic

Napoli ? Lost their coach and Cavani, maybe they finish in the left side of the table.



Make no mistake, Juve reigns supreme

Yeah that's all good. But lets no get too complaisant. Football can change very quickly.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

The reason i ask, is because if it's specific to Marrotta there are things I both, agree and disagree with. I would say his role is being exaggerated. He has given us a solid base but after some trial and error.

How can his role possibly be exaggerated? If you're going by the shitload of criticism he's receiving, he just has to be the guy who makes all decisions, at all times.

 

[chester]

blunders that came mainly because of bigger blunders named Ferrara, Ranieri and Del Neri.

And, for Diego, Melo, Amauri, and, if I am not wrong, also Krasic and Martinez, from someone who has been here named Secco.

 

[baggio]

How can his role possibly be exaggerated? If you're going by the shitload of criticism he's receiving, he just has to be the guy who makes all decisions, at all times.

Of course it is, when we talk about where we were and where we are. The stadium and Conte's arrival have been integral to this story. Marrotta's role in both cases is exaggerated as he has nothing to do with either.

 

[ZoSo]

And, for Diego, Melo, Amauri, and, if I am not wrong, also Krasic and Martinez, from someone who has been here named Secco.

Krasic and Martinez are Marotta

 

[Red]

Wonder who Marotta is going to spill his drink on this time...

 

[Nzoric]

Marotta

Man he's such a badass.

 

[ZoSo]

Tevez

 

[Jem83]

God damn it, Bogan!

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Of course it is, when we talk about where we were and where we are. The stadium and Conte's arrival have been integral to this story. Marrotta's role in both cases is exaggerated as he has nothing to do with either.

Huh?

I'll repeat myself: judging by how much criticism he receives, he clearly decides everything on his own (i.e. who to sign, what to pay, our wage cap, etc.)

 

[baggio]

Huh?

I'll repeat myself: judging by how much criticism he receives, he clearly decides everything on his own (i.e. who to sign, what to pay, our wage cap, etc.)

He didn't decide to appoint Conte. He didn't decide to build a stadium for Juventus. Both have had a bearing on results and finances. Beppe has failed, just as much as people claim he has succeeded. He was clearly taking all the decisions prior to Conte's arrival. Nothing changed for us then.

 

[Red]

The decisions like reducing the wage bill and age of the squad that were the first steps needed towards rebuilding?

Look to Inter just now to see what a fine job they are making of the same process.

 

[Nzoric]

The decisions like reducing the wage bill and age of the squad that were the first steps needed towards rebuilding?

Look to Inter just now to see what a fine job they are making of the same process.

:smile:

 

[baggio]

The decisions like reducing the wage bill and age of the squad that were the first steps needed towards rebuilding?

Look to Inter just now to see what a fine job they are making of the same process.

Like I said, some good, some bad. But to give him all the plaudits is pushing it. Bringing the wage bill down was easier to do coz the club in his first year was aiming for CL qualification, not a title. We hired a coach to play 442 and dint give him the basic pillars of that formation. Bringing the wage cap down had to come with a pattern of prirotizing who we needed. I'm not trying to defend Secco either, just saying that Marrotta has had time and quite a bit of money to fix things. Conte's appointment has helped a great deal IMO. Conte himself talks about building things and cites Inter's example. Surely, his thinking has helped Beppe.

 

[Red]

Like I said, some good, some bad. But to give him all the plaudits is pushing it. Bringing the wage bill down was easier to do coz the club in his first year was aiming for CL qualification, not a title. We hired a coach to play 442 and dint give him the basic pillars of that formation. Bringing the wage cap down had to come with a pattern of prirotizing who we needed. I'm not trying to defend Secco either, just saying that Marrotta has had time and quite a bit of money to fix things. Conte's appointment has helped a great deal IMO. Conte himself talks about building things and cites Inter's example. Surely, his thinking has helped Beppe.

I'm not saying Marotta has been fantastically successful in everything he's done.

I was merely taking issue with your claim that nothing had changed at Juve prior to Conte's appointment.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

He didn't decide to appoint Conte. He didn't decide to build a stadium for Juventus. Both have had a bearing on results and finances. Beppe has failed, just as much as people claim he has succeeded. He was clearly taking all the decisions prior to Conte's arrival. Nothing changed for us then.

My bad, I was confused again. The positive bits are no decisions of his. As for the negative ones...

We better learn to live with, seeing how Marotta will be with the club till at least 2014/2015.

 

[Amer]

What happened? Did he land in Madrid? Is he showing signs of nervousness? How many times did he took a piss?

Where are the gurus when you need them ?

 

[baggio]

I'm not saying Marotta has been fantastically successful in everything he's done.

I was merely taking issue with your claim that nothing had changed at Juve prior to Conte's appointment.

I meant in terms of results on the pitch. Would we be giving credit to Beppe for bringing down the age and wage cap of the team if we were still 7th or 8th in the league? I have my doubts.

The model only looks good when you're winning.

That said, I think he's grown into the role a little better than how he started. He has done well with some signings, but so far he has been par for the course IMO.

My bad, I was confused again. The positive bits are no decisions of his. As for the negative ones...

We better learn to live with, seeing how Marotta will be with the club till at least 2014/2015.

If you re-read where this discussion stems from, youll find that my bone of contention isn't with him staying, but receiving a whole lot of credit for where we are today after two seventh place finishes. I believe that the main catalyst for this success has been Conte.

Also, you probably know by now that I'm not a big fan of Marrotta even though I was really happy when he first arrived, but my opinion of him changed over the course of his first couple of seasons here.

 

[Red]

I meant in terms of results on the pitch. Would we be giving credit to Beppe for bringing down the age and wage cap of the team if we were still 7th or 8th in the league? I have my doubts.

Depends on whether I thought it was his fault Juve weren't winning.