He has to sell. However an opening market of - Leali, Giovinco, Pogba, Lucio, Isla & Asamoah is very good.
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It's all about the money, the best talents in the world went to City/Chelsea not because they were prestigious clubs or were playing in the CL for years. They simply managed to afford those players.
We've spent around 130 mil euros in just a couple of seasons under Marotta, I'm pretty certain we can afford "atleast" a couple of star players a season if we really want to. Problem is, I really don't think Marotta can pull such moves.
I agree with most of what you said, but I still believe that Marotta is just not capable of operating really well outside of Italy (with the exception of Vidal's move who his club clearly said they prefer to sell him to us then their rivals Bayern Munich).
We've spent around 130 mil euros in just a couple of seasons under Marotta, I'm pretty certain we can afford "atleast" a couple of star players a season if we really want to. Problem is, I really don't think Marotta can pull such moves.
I agree with most of what you said, but I still believe that Marotta is just not capable of operating really well outside of Italy (with the exception of Vidal's move who his club clearly said they prefer to sell him to us then their rivals Bayern Munich).
It doesn't work like that, at all. Just because we spent €60m+ net it doesn't mean we could buy two €30m players instead. Without CL football you are crippled in the market for those players. When you have a squad to build it also rules out spending a lot on just 2-3 players.
It'll be a gradual process for Juve to start getting back into that level of market. One big signing per season is not unreasonable, might even be this season.
It'll be a gradual process for Juve to start getting back into that level of market. One big signing per season is not unreasonable, might even be this season.
yes, you are correct, but it is also subject to interpretation as to what quality happens to be.
Are Isla and Asamoah quality? In my opinion, absolutely. The model players that this team is looking for. Young players who are established who can only get better with time and more quality around them.
Now, in regards to the obvious glaring need in the attack.
It would have been presumptuous to assume that Juve would set the market for the top strikers. They are not in a financial position to do so. Also, keep in mind that no other teams out there in Europe have signed a "Top Striker" as of yet. Some will say Giroud is one, but I don't feel that he is at that level.
What Juve is going to do is what most teams are doing right now. Waiting until the Euros are over, and waiting for the first domino to fall. Once that takes place, then you will see teams, including Juve, make their move(s)
Are Isla and Asamoah quality? In my opinion, absolutely. The model players that this team is looking for. Young players who are established who can only get better with time and more quality around them.
Now, in regards to the obvious glaring need in the attack.
It would have been presumptuous to assume that Juve would set the market for the top strikers. They are not in a financial position to do so. Also, keep in mind that no other teams out there in Europe have signed a "Top Striker" as of yet. Some will say Giroud is one, but I don't feel that he is at that level.
What Juve is going to do is what most teams are doing right now. Waiting until the Euros are over, and waiting for the first domino to fall. Once that takes place, then you will see teams, including Juve, make their move(s)
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My hopes are the dominos fall the way we are expecting and the market for forwards really opens up. Its a very strange situation as those players are on really fat contracts, aren't rotation options due to importance of moral and self confidence in their game (SAF said 'that's the nature of the beast') and therefore their market value is quite volatile.
My hopes are the dominos fall the way we are expecting and the market for forwards really opens up. Its a very strange situation as those players are on really fat contracts, aren't rotation options due to importance of moral and self confidence in their game (SAF said 'that's the nature of the beast') and therefore their market value is quite volatile.
seconded, was going to say the same thing.
It is pretty good. But did we really upgrade our starting Xl for next season? I dont think so. None of the players from the list will go in and take us to another level. Giovinco may start, but I doubt he will be our solution on offence.
We spend a lot of money on quantity yet again. Marotta has to come up with a quality player.. someone who will go in and start for us from day 1 and make us stronger. Fortunately, its only the start of the mercato.
We spend a lot of money on quantity yet again. Marotta has to come up with a quality player.. someone who will go in and start for us from day 1 and make us stronger. Fortunately, its only the start of the mercato.
Well said!
And indeed we still have plenty of time to make our moves and the best moves were bound to happen after Euro is concluded and top players would return from their NTs.
But there is one reason to worry about, we have already spent quite a lot, somewhere close to our annual budget of 50mil, so we must now rely on sales quite a bit...
And indeed we still have plenty of time to make our moves and the best moves were bound to happen after Euro is concluded and top players would return from their NTs.
But there is one reason to worry about, we have already spent quite a lot, somewhere close to our annual budget of 50mil, so we must now rely on sales quite a bit...
I merely pointing out that you are confusing quantity of shit players, for quantity of very good players and putting perhaps too much stock in the 'starting XI'.
If Giovinco and Vucinic can play on the same team then we are missing one player, the striker. Still holding Matri and Quag means that our 2nd string comparable our first string under Delneri, keeping in mind that it's have a full 2nd starting 11 is fiscally and generally impossible. Storari,Isla,Caceres,Bonnucci,A left back, Padoin,Marrone,Asamoah,Quagliarella,Matri,Pepe.
What you have there is an incomplete team, which is fine, because those are our backups.But there's something to consider: The 'Starting XI is a myth', it should not be bought into. If you challenge for three trophies you need to count the entire 24 of which we have a very good lineup.
If any leave, including Krasic and Elia, then another player will arrive. As it stands, we are apparently selling, one of Quag/Matri, Elia and Krasic. Which need to be replaced by a striker, a right winger and a left back.
So: We have at least three players to sell, we need to buy at least 4 players, Two squad players and one world class striker. Money from the sales can and should be the total fund leaving the actual remaining budget, which I suspect is less that €20M to be spend on our starting striker for next season.
Beppe has done excellently so far when you look at it from the 'starting XXIV' all we need really in this department is a Left-Back who is also a Wing-Back and the striker, which we haven't had since Trez.
One thing I completely agree with though is that we have 2 months to buy two players. The way Beppe is going, we should have the LB done in time, and the Striker by deadline day, probably somebody like Dzeko.
If Giovinco and Vucinic can play on the same team then we are missing one player, the striker. Still holding Matri and Quag means that our 2nd string comparable our first string under Delneri, keeping in mind that it's have a full 2nd starting 11 is fiscally and generally impossible. Storari,Isla,Caceres,Bonnucci,A left back, Padoin,Marrone,Asamoah,Quagliarella,Matri,Pepe.
What you have there is an incomplete team, which is fine, because those are our backups.But there's something to consider: The 'Starting XI is a myth', it should not be bought into. If you challenge for three trophies you need to count the entire 24 of which we have a very good lineup.
If any leave, including Krasic and Elia, then another player will arrive. As it stands, we are apparently selling, one of Quag/Matri, Elia and Krasic. Which need to be replaced by a striker, a right winger and a left back.
So: We have at least three players to sell, we need to buy at least 4 players, Two squad players and one world class striker. Money from the sales can and should be the total fund leaving the actual remaining budget, which I suspect is less that €20M to be spend on our starting striker for next season.
Beppe has done excellently so far when you look at it from the 'starting XXIV' all we need really in this department is a Left-Back who is also a Wing-Back and the striker, which we haven't had since Trez.
One thing I completely agree with though is that we have 2 months to buy two players. The way Beppe is going, we should have the LB done in time, and the Striker by deadline day, probably somebody like Dzeko.
