Giuseppe Marotta (91 Viewers)

[Fake Melo]

Not you too Salvatore, Moggi had some dumb moves ( Gladstone ) But he was the best SD the western civilisation has ever witnessed. It's about Class, swag, and the Juve Style. Marotta doesn't have any.

No, it's about signing the right players and winning titles. Most importantly, not getting your team relegated.

 

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[AFL_ITALIA]

Indeed.

And then against Siena on only his third game back he had a goal and two assists.

Cassano > Vucinic

 

[Cheesio]

No, it's about signing the right players and winning titles. Most importantly, not getting your team relegated.

Yeah, it's because Moggi we were relegated, it's like you've been living under a rock the past years, it's well known now that Moggi didn't do anything wrong, nothing more than the like of Milan and Inter were doing.

And about winning titles, Hope you are joking about this part.

 

[Fake Melo]

Yeah, it's because Moggi we were relegated, it's like you've been living under a rock the past years, it's well known now that Moggi didn't do anything wrong, nothing more than the like of Milan and Inter were doing.

And about winning titles, Hope you are joking about this part.

Believe me, I know we wrongfully relegated, but if Moggi didn't have his head in his ass most of the time, it wouldn't have happened.

Sure, Inter & Milan were doing pretty bad things, but "Moggi didn't do anything wrong" is just so so incorrect.

 

[Salvatore]

Not you too Salvatore, Moggi had some dumb moves ( Gladstone ) But he was the best SD the western civilisation has ever witnessed. It's about Class, swag, and the Juve Style. Marotta doesn't have any.

I think he earned a bit of a break from the criticism for a few months at least, I think we've all seen huge surprises this man has made (both positive and negative). I'm not a huge fan either though, Lúcio has a career of making big mistakes that lead to goals.

 

[KB824]

Yeah, it's because Moggi we were relegated, it's like you've been living under a rock the past years, it's well known now that Moggi didn't do anything wrong, nothing more than the like of Milan and Inter were doing.

And about winning titles, Hope you are joking about this part.

Joking about what, exactly.

marotta has been at Juve for 2 years and they have won a title. Moggi's team didn't win a title every year, you know.

 

[Cheesio]

Joking about what, exactly.

marotta has been at Juve for 2 years and they have won a title. Moggi's team didn't win a title every year, you know.

Marotta should be gratefull to Conte, Marotta still to date can't deliver a big name, all of his signing are either overpaid or flops, he's yet to make a deal on wich we can say, wow that was a steal of deal, bar maybe the Pirlo deal.

 

[JuveJay]

Not maybe, definitely.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Marotta should be gratefull to Conte, Marotta still to date can't deliver a big name, all of his signing are either overpaid or flops, he's yet to make a deal on wich we can say, wow that was a steal of deal, bar maybe the Pirlo deal.

Big names mean shit if they don't fit or work with contes system

 

[KB824]

Marotta should be gratefull to Conte, Marotta still to date can't deliver a big name, all of his signing are either overpaid or flops, he's yet to make a deal on wich we can say, wow that was a steal of deal, bar maybe the Pirlo deal.

Then by that token, Moggi should have been grateful to Lippi, because they weren't winning anything until he got there.


And maybe Moggi should have been grateful to the DS that preceeded him, because that gentleman left Moggi with a loaded squad, especially in attack

Ravanelli, Vialli, a young phenom by the name of DelPiero, and arguably the best player in the world at that time in Baggio. And were Sousa, Deschamps, and tacchinardi the "big names" at the time when they were singed during Moggi's first year?

No, they weren't big names. They became big names, but they weren't when they were signed. The only "Big Name" in that transfer campaign was Ferrara, due in no small part to the relationship that he had with Moggi during their time together in Napoli


And you don't think that the person in your avatar was a steal of a deal?

 

[Cheesio]

Big names mean shit if they don't fit or work with contes system

Bla Bla Bla.

 

[Fake Melo]

Hating for no reason is not cool, Cheese.

 

[Trequartista]

Hating for no reason is not cool, Cheese.

But if Marotta was halal...

 

[AndreaCristiano]

So chessio it seems you forget things from the time of moggi

 

[only-juve]

Comparing Marotta with Moggi

And please for God's sake can we stop that bullsh't argument that Moggi had all the money in the world in his disposal back then yet the poor Marotta doesn't have any money to spend.

- 2010/2011 season transfer exp: 53 millions euros

- 2011-2012 season : 87 millions, "net spent 67 mil" ( total ex - total income)

Can someone show me just "once" when Moggi's net spends were more than 67 mil euros !!

 

[HAZEM]

where is the WC striker ?! and the LB?! when he sign them i would say he did great job.

 

[Salvatore]

I wish this forum would give up with "big name" talk as if it means anything to Juventus.

 

[Klovn]

I wish this forum would give up with "big name" talk as if it means anything to Juventus.

 

[JuveJay]

Net spend is obviously more important, but having actual funds is a different issue. Moggi was playing with big chips at an established top CL club, it's a different level to anything Marotta could possibly do. Deals like Thuram, Buffon and Nedved for Zidane and Inzaghi are so far away from Juventus and Serie A in general it's not even funny. Those players now go to the billionaire playboy clubs.

 

[KB824]

Comparing Marotta with Moggi

And please for God's sake can we stop that bullsh't argument that Moggi had all the money in the world in his disposal back then yet the poor Marotta doesn't have any money to spend.

- 2010/2011 season transfer exp: 53 millions euros

- 2011-2012 season : 87 millions, "net spent 67 mil" ( total ex - total income)

Can someone show me just "once" when Moggi's net spends were more than 67 mil euros !!

While I will more than agree with you in regards to the money argument, there are some things that are either being left out of the conversation, or certain things that people might not be aware of.


First and foremost was that Moggi inherited a fantastic squad in 1994. The only reason why they couldn't win was because the Milan teams of that era were absolutely legendary.

The squad at Moggi's disposal was a fantastic team. Baggio, Peruzzi, Moller, Di Livio, Dino Baggio, Del Piero, Ravanelli, Vialli, Kohler, Torricelli.

It was much easier to work with that base of players in your first year in. The squad did not need revolutionizing. They did not need wholesale changes. It needed tweaking.

The squad that Marotta inherited needed more than just tweaking. It was an old, expensive squad, with bit players on ridiculous contracts. The previous DS for Juve during Moggi's time did not leave the team in a financial mess, the same way that Secco left things behind.


So, again, as I stated earlier, I wholeheartedly agree with you in regards to the budgets given each DS, but also keep in mind the situations that they walked into. If Moggi had walked into a 7th place squad in 1994, do you not think that he would have made wholesale changes?

Conversely, if Marotta had walked into a 2nd place squad with an elite strikeforce, with arguably the best player in the world at that time,and a rising young phoenomeon, do you think that he would have seen the need to make any wholesale changes.