IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
Nobody is saying you're wrong, just that it's all hypothetical until the window shuts and the season begins.

Say for example, if we brought in Alex,Hazard and Diarra, just for arguments sake, I know we won't, but if we did, then the collection of posts you have made would look ridiculous.
 

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Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
Again i repeat, judging by the transfers that were MADE SO FAR, our mercato was horrible!
Now if we do buy indeed those players, even 2 of them, it would change that, i merely say that atm, we are doing teri-bad.
If nothing changes within a week or so, teri-bad it is.
Things could change to the worse or to the best, i m only referring to the facts we are dealing with so far.
 

IrishZebra

Western Imperialist
Jun 18, 2006
23,327
Again i repeat, judging by the transfers that were MADE SO FAR, our mercato was horrible!
Now if we do buy indeed those players, even 2 of them, it would change that, i merely say that atm, we are doing teri-bad.
If nothing changes within a week or so, teri-bad it is.
Things could change to the worse or to the best, i m only referring to the facts we are dealing with so far.
Well then, carry on.
Could you summarise that long video please?
Black guy, tries to explain something, does it in the stupidest way possible.
 

Nardonejuve

Senior Member
Mar 21, 2010
2,197
So Marotta and Conte have said the team looks incomplete (finally something is said) after the game its apparent they need another wide player and a CB. He also said they are looking to sign 2-3 more players. Problem is all the players we've been linked with are not easy transfers. Alex is getting harder by the day because Chelsea wil only let go of him if Rolando joins, Lugano they say now they dont want to spend 3.5m plus his high wages because hes almost 32(which to me is smart even though I like Lugano) and who knows what LW we are actually trying to get. Apparently Elia is back in the mix now since Hamburg need a forward and i might be wrong but apparently they like Amauri. Oh and Iaquinta is officailly off the market since his new injury will keep him out for 40 days. Thumbs up for that! FUCK!
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,388
By the end of august 31, all of you wishful thinkers dellusionists hide in your wormholes or stubbornly avoid/forget any logical argument made in the mercato and just hope for the best.
I believe our development is made on the transfer window and once it closes, we can only go as far, as the available material and coach can get us.
We are setting the standards here and now.
ATM, considering that the transfer window is about to close in window, i believe that the moves we have made thus far were terrible and unwise. Thats a fact based on the transfers made so far.
You are the ones who assumes that we will buy more useful players and you judge that our mercato is far is great, because you have faith that Marotta will make up for his mistakes and buy in the last days, the players that didnt bought in 3 months.
Typical delusional thinking and you dare to flame my objective assessment on the transfer actions that were made, that are real and irrevocable.

As far Melo, that the BS you want to believe, Melo knew that they were going to offload him and thats he RIGHTFULLY made those comments.
The intend to sell him, no matter the cost was proved by the disastrous deal Marotta made, that deal proved that Melo was right all along and the decision to ditch he was already made, despite the fact that he was one of our best players in the past season, and that he has given his all for our jersey.
This is not the first time such a thing occurs, Diego, Giovinco and many other players were also ditched in the shame way and the collective loss of those sale outs, has a HUGE economic impact on our economy and our effort to build a competitive squad.

Now you can be a hypocrite and blame the players all you want, by ignoring the pattern that is present throughout all our recent history, a pattern that i have recognized and pointed out through the very beginning, a pattern that undermines our efforts to grow and condemn us to waste our limited resources and remain a mediocre club with higher capabilities...

I raise the question again, do you think that it is random that we are wasting the largest part of our resources and attention at acquiring a new SS and a new CM each and every season, since our return from serie A??
Do you think that it random that we have avoided to invest on the defense as much as possible?
Do you think that the choices of the puppet coaches is also random?
Do you honestly fail to see the pattern that is repeated each and every year?

FFS i ve pointing it out since the first year, five years this thing has been repeated and you still fail to see it?

Ang again, you still instist that Vucinic and Vidal were the player we needed the most?
You still insist that a CB better than Bonucci wouldnt help our cause more.
You still insist that LB better than Ziegler wouldnt hhelp our cause more.
You still insist that a LW better than Martinez wouldnt help our cause more.

You still believe that Vidal and Vucinic are so much more superior than Melo+Quaq, that will be able to compensate for Bonucci's, Zeglier's and Martinez lapses.
If you actually believe, then excuse me, but you are just an idiot who is not only clueless about football, but also a moron who was learned nothing by the Iaq, Amauri, Tiago, Almiron, Poulsen, Quaq, Diego etc mistakes...
If our board fools you once, by giving you false hopes by hyped players who can only make the difference on papers, shame on them, but fool you twice, thrice or indefinitely, only proves that you are mentally challenged and never learn from your mistakes.

As for the forward situation, Marotta has failed to sell/release/swap/loan them.
Not all, but not even one of them and yet you are hurry to forget him about that.
Thats ok, lets hope that he knows what he is doing and blame everything on Secco, everybody was supporting up until yesterday, when i was the pessimist who were bashing him...

But how can you forget him for the Acquisition of a whole new pack of forwards, when we already have so many available options.
Marotta fails to offload Secco's mistakes Amauri and Iaq, ok but why not keep them as squad players and add yet another squad in Toni last year then? He has just added one more problem to the equation now, is this Secco's fault as well?
Why add Quaq, when he sees that he is not reliable enough to make the season and is still stacked with Seccos squad players and his squad player??
The decision to buy Vucinic automatically turn Quaq into our 4th forward sub, wtf, is he interested on a 5th now??
Seriously, thats totally insane and no matter how biased to eternal optimism one may be, the acquisition of yet another forward and a failure to buy a LW/CB starter, should verify the incompetence and complete failure of this mercato.

Thats exactly what i said. Based on my exp, ii believe thats possible, because i believe that Marotta is that incompetent.
Just like i said before we buy Vidal, that if we buy him, it will be a tragic mistake with catastrophic consequences to our economy.
That was my opinion before it happened, as it did happened, i will not change my mind now, because you or any other delusional fan will call me negative.
My opinion on the Vucinic acquisition before we bought him, was that it would be a tragic mistake, that will undermine our chances to buy a competent winger starter like Vargas and so far it seems that i was spot on, our limited resources were wasted, our inability to sell confirmed and the end result is that we will end up with someone like Perotti, or even worse and suffer again from the very same issues we have been suffering since Neddy's retirement and for the same stupid reason again (to add yet another dribbler SS, to appease the fans and ignite their hopes)
My opinion on Quaq since his injury is that he is unreliable and we should rather buy a new starter and scrap him, because we already have too many squad players for the SS position (DP, Iaq, Amauri) we bought him too.
We commit one mistake behind the other and you ignore them all because you just prefer to see the good part, of a new and more promising arrival.
You easily forget that the same arguments were again used when Amauri was brought and he was fresh and promising.
Again i asked for a better LB, LW and CB instead, again the priorities were overlooked, again the mediocre unproven player failed to become world class, again our investment was wasted, again our sacrifices on the defense and left wing came back to haunt all this long and again we overlook them and commit the same mistakes for some fools hopes...
I have to quote this for those who don't listen.
 

JUVEMAN1211

Senior Member
Jun 22, 2011
726
Cronios, I would love to hear who you have in mind in terms of improving our team. Say we didn't get all of the players we signed this summer, who would you pick?? Lets hear it man, you negative nincompoop
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,388
Cronios, I would love to hear who you have in mind in terms of improving our team. Say we didn't get all of the players we signed this summer, who would you pick?? Lets hear it man, you negative nincompoop
He has said it many times, why don't you listen? Why don't you read his posts?
 

JUVEMAN1211

Senior Member
Jun 22, 2011
726
Like really dude, we aren't the same team as we use to be pre-2006. GET OVER IT. Juve is trying to do their best to rebuild the club back to where we use to be. All Cronios does is bitch about what were arent doing. Plus, I bet all of the signings you want are all out of the range of juve RIGHT NOW. this guy........smh
 

KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
31,789
He has a right to say what he wants. A lot of people don't agree with him, but it's his right to voice his opinion.

He very rarely ever slanders anyone or insults them, and will only do so when he is insulted.

look, I don't agree with a good portion of what he says, but sometimes he gets slated for no reason.
 

Klin

نحن الروبوتات
May 27, 2009
61,692
He has a right to say what he wants. A lot of people don't agree with him, but it's his right to voice his opinion.

He very rarely ever slanders anyone or insults them, and will only do so when he is insulted.

look, I don't agree with a good portion of what he says, but sometimes he gets slated for no reason.
I don't insult him.

I only insult the guttermyblacklungs dolt.
 

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