The way we're trying to play, Sissoko wouldn't suit it. He can't make 5 metre passes.
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i was about to react to that pointless drivel, but then saw your location and knew you were a mong...no fun in poking fun at an ameoba brain is there!
I continue to find it hard to understand how so many people seem truly contemptful of Beppe. Because for me, he has done a great job so far this mercato, especially when you take into account our present position of a historically great team, who has endured two consecutive seasons of total failure, two of our worst seasons for half a century, failed to qualify for europe, had to chop and change managers.
We needed a RB - we got one of the top three in our league.
we needed a LB- we got one for free, who is a worthy challenger/alternative to de ceglie.
Melo wasn't happy, so we replaced him with one of the most brilliant midfielders in the bundesliga, of a good age, good health, great form last term and apparently wicked enthusiasm for Juve.
Aquilani was not worth 16m, so we got pirlo for 0m.
Momo simply cannot play in a team that wants to pass the ball, so he went for a tidy sum, and we got pazienza for 0m. pazienza is not a world beater, but he is tenacious and tidy, and played more regularly for one of the best teams in our league last season.
our forward line was ahuge worry:
dp- near to 37...far too old to be starting in attack for a team who covets champions league qualification.
Big VinnyCenzo- dead
Amauri- mentally and spiritually enfeebled
Quags- recovering from a VERy serious injury, will definitely take time to regain confidence physically and mentally (one small knock on that knee pre-season kept him out of all the following games)
toni- sometimes useful as a sub, but at best, a bench player, and old.
the ONLY healthy, physically prime, quality striker we had (pre-mercato) was Matri...so we added Vucinic.
Every one of these moves I approve of.
Its a shame that Secco's legacy remains hard to crunch, but I am sure beppe is trying to find clubs for the dead wood we have been carrying since Alessio graced us with his incompetence.
We are stronger than we were, in several areas.
Only a fool focuses too heavily on the aguero saga. that argument always gets to a point of 'city had champions leage football, a much stronger squad, a chance at the title in the strongest league in the world, and could offer him at very least DOUBLE what we could in wages'...seriously, for fucks sake, if people cannot understand that we cannot compete with City on those measures, then they dont understand football.
all in all, Beppe and paratici, are doing brilliantly. I havent even mentioned the talented youngsters we are continuing to purchase...
I continue to find it hard to understand how so many people seem truly contemptful of Beppe. Because for me, he has done a great job so far this mercato, especially when you take into account our present position of a historically great team, who has endured two consecutive seasons of total failure, two of our worst seasons for half a century, failed to qualify for europe, had to chop and change managers.
We needed a RB - we got one of the top three in our league.
we needed a LB- we got one for free, who is a worthy challenger/alternative to de ceglie.
Melo wasn't happy, so we replaced him with one of the most brilliant midfielders in the bundesliga, of a good age, good health, great form last term and apparently wicked enthusiasm for Juve.
Aquilani was not worth 16m, so we got pirlo for 0m.
Momo simply cannot play in a team that wants to pass the ball, so he went for a tidy sum, and we got pazienza for 0m. pazienza is not a world beater, but he is tenacious and tidy, and played more regularly for one of the best teams in our league last season.
our forward line was ahuge worry:
dp- near to 37...far too old to be starting in attack for a team who covets champions league qualification.
Big VinnyCenzo- dead
Amauri- mentally and spiritually enfeebled
Quags- recovering from a VERy serious injury, will definitely take time to regain confidence physically and mentally (one small knock on that knee pre-season kept him out of all the following games)
toni- sometimes useful as a sub, but at best, a bench player, and old.
the ONLY healthy, physically prime, quality striker we had (pre-mercato) was Matri...so we added Vucinic.
Every one of these moves I approve of.
Its a shame that Secco's legacy remains hard to crunch, but I am sure beppe is trying to find clubs for the dead wood we have been carrying since Alessio graced us with his incompetence.
We are stronger than we were, in several areas.
Only a fool focuses too heavily on the aguero saga. that argument always gets to a point of 'city had champions leage football, a much stronger squad, a chance at the title in the strongest league in the world, and could offer him at very least DOUBLE what we could in wages'...seriously, for fucks sake, if people cannot understand that we cannot compete with City on those measures, then they dont understand football.
all in all, Beppe and paratici, are doing brilliantly. I havent even mentioned the talented youngsters we are continuing to purchase...
What is more disgusting than Marotta himself, is the fact that people actually find ways to defend him, creating excuses for the man, and asking for him to be given further opportunities. How can u defend the indefensible?Poor thing! The guy is getting paid truckloads of money and fucking up this club! Pathetic!
Lo-Pan, you do realize that our historical greatness helps us recruit players right? You make it sound like Marotta's working against some sort of burden there. You also realize that Beppe was the one who brought in a TON of new players before one of our two worst seasons in history? The guy who also let go of several very useful players for peanuts as well. The guy that had to "chop and change" the manager that he hired?
The obsessive bitching about Marotta can get old, but surely we need to see a return on our transactions before crowning this a job well done - especially after last year's mercato masterpiece. There is no way in hell we should have to buy this many players two seasons in a row. Continuity is so important, and Marotta has to take his fair share of the blame in that regard.
After last years summer mercato and dreadful season, is it really so hard for you to believe that people are still pissed with Marotta? Seriously?
Licht is a very nice pickup, Ziegler is obviously not of that caliber. Yeah, he's free, but this has been one of our absolute WORST positions for years, and we really should have approached it as such. We should have targeted a significant upgrade at LB. This should have been one of our very first priorities.
We also desperately need help at CB. I'm not satisfied with the work that's been done on our back line, considering how poor it has been since Calciopoli - but especially the past 2 years. There's still time, of course, but Marotta is starting to push it here; if Juventus is going to finish 3rd, a good start is imperative. Having players ready for camp, and pre-season can make such a big difference in the early going; we need those points.
Vidal looks like he could be our best signing of the Mercato, especially when you consider the price paid. Unfortunately, loaning Melo also looks to be one of our worst moves of the mercato. I really can't say that we could have kept him, none of us knows the whole story, but he was pretty damn good last year; we should have been able to sell him straight up. Gala better pick up that option, or we might have problems getting any sort of decent return on a player who cost us a ton, and was very useful. If he doesn't have a GREAT season in the Turkish league (which is possible, due to language, culture, environment, etc.), then we could be looking at a pretty poor market for Melo next year.
Not picking up Aquilani at 16M was obvious - Beppe shouldn't really get too much credit for that. Pirlo for free seems like it should be a good move, although giving a lucrative contract to an elder statesmen seems to run counter to the M.O. GM initially declared. Anyway, I digress. Pirlo's expensive, but he'll be a quality teammate, provide lots of leadership and be a good backup in short order. I'm not a fan of Pazienza, and I would have liked to see a youngster fill that role, but that's just me. Momo had to go, he couldn't stay healthy, and when he was (the past two seasons) he wasn't good.
We needed another forward, Vucinic at 15M looks like a really solid piece of business. It didn't make sense to spend 40M on a forward with so many holes in the squad, and this was a very nice move.
I noticed that you didn't mention us buying Pepe here, or Motta, and I suppose you're including them in last years mercato? It's hard to say whether these unofficial loan/purchases that everyone is always talking about are true or not. That obligation isn't technically legal though, and buying Pepe at 10M is silly - especially considering Conte's 'fondness' for him - or lack thereof. I also can't believe we're keeping Motta. I always figured we'd buy him, but I thought we'd turn around and sell him.
It's understandable that a lot of our players are hard to move, but the reality is that some of them need to be moved - sold, or bought out. We desperately need to remove unhappy players from the environment, if we're going to forge a strong team mentality. Marotta's gotta do more than sell Sissoko to PSG, and rescind Tiago's contract to get a pass here. Two weeks left for a fairly considerable job.
Fuck Aguero, he's a mercenary, I agree that Marotta can't be blamed for missing on him. However, by invoking several specific names in interviews (Tevez, Aguero, Rossi) he created a level of expectation that he couldn't fulfill. He's a public figure, and he's going to take abuse for that - and rightfully so, in my opinion. Having ambition is one thing, but he should be aware of what it will usually require to buy players of that caliber in this inflated market - this market isn't some new phenomenon, it's been going on like this for awhile now. If you're going to talk the talk, you better have the means to walk the walk; especially with our historically spoiled fan base.
Marotta has brought in some quality this mercato; there's little doubt some good players have been signed. But how can you say he's done brilliantly? That's pretty excessive, man. In my opinion, he's done a shit job of prioritizing - AGAIN - and really targeting 3 of our 4 major weak spots. We'll likely get another defender, but right now LB, CB, and LM can be classified as fairly weak, or pretty damn deficient; I'm satisfied with Licht - although, I don't like the Motta back up plan.
Finally, he's been in charge of our transfers for over 400 days, and we still don't have a proper LM. Not even one (Edit - I guess if you count Paquato, and we keep him, that's 1 - albeit 1 who's unproven at this level). Despite Marotta hiring TWO managers who preferentially employ a 4-4-2. How is that even possible? That's just so much time to scout players, set aside a healthy budget, and make a strong move - it should have been done well before the last couple weeks of the mercato.
Anyway, hopefully we'll sign Alex and Vargas (I haven't seen enough of Ramirez to rate him), while keeping Pasquato. I'd love to see that physicality added to our lineup - both of those guys can knock some heads. If that happens, then this has been a pretty good mercato, despite a certain group feeling cheated that we didn't bring in the desired 'big name'.
The obsessive bitching about Marotta can get old, but surely we need to see a return on our transactions before crowning this a job well done - especially after last year's mercato masterpiece. There is no way in hell we should have to buy this many players two seasons in a row. Continuity is so important, and Marotta has to take his fair share of the blame in that regard.
After last years summer mercato and dreadful season, is it really so hard for you to believe that people are still pissed with Marotta? Seriously?
Licht is a very nice pickup, Ziegler is obviously not of that caliber. Yeah, he's free, but this has been one of our absolute WORST positions for years, and we really should have approached it as such. We should have targeted a significant upgrade at LB. This should have been one of our very first priorities.
We also desperately need help at CB. I'm not satisfied with the work that's been done on our back line, considering how poor it has been since Calciopoli - but especially the past 2 years. There's still time, of course, but Marotta is starting to push it here; if Juventus is going to finish 3rd, a good start is imperative. Having players ready for camp, and pre-season can make such a big difference in the early going; we need those points.
Vidal looks like he could be our best signing of the Mercato, especially when you consider the price paid. Unfortunately, loaning Melo also looks to be one of our worst moves of the mercato. I really can't say that we could have kept him, none of us knows the whole story, but he was pretty damn good last year; we should have been able to sell him straight up. Gala better pick up that option, or we might have problems getting any sort of decent return on a player who cost us a ton, and was very useful. If he doesn't have a GREAT season in the Turkish league (which is possible, due to language, culture, environment, etc.), then we could be looking at a pretty poor market for Melo next year.
Not picking up Aquilani at 16M was obvious - Beppe shouldn't really get too much credit for that. Pirlo for free seems like it should be a good move, although giving a lucrative contract to an elder statesmen seems to run counter to the M.O. GM initially declared. Anyway, I digress. Pirlo's expensive, but he'll be a quality teammate, provide lots of leadership and be a good backup in short order. I'm not a fan of Pazienza, and I would have liked to see a youngster fill that role, but that's just me. Momo had to go, he couldn't stay healthy, and when he was (the past two seasons) he wasn't good.
We needed another forward, Vucinic at 15M looks like a really solid piece of business. It didn't make sense to spend 40M on a forward with so many holes in the squad, and this was a very nice move.
I noticed that you didn't mention us buying Pepe here, or Motta, and I suppose you're including them in last years mercato? It's hard to say whether these unofficial loan/purchases that everyone is always talking about are true or not. That obligation isn't technically legal though, and buying Pepe at 10M is silly - especially considering Conte's 'fondness' for him - or lack thereof. I also can't believe we're keeping Motta. I always figured we'd buy him, but I thought we'd turn around and sell him.
It's understandable that a lot of our players are hard to move, but the reality is that some of them need to be moved - sold, or bought out. We desperately need to remove unhappy players from the environment, if we're going to forge a strong team mentality. Marotta's gotta do more than sell Sissoko to PSG, and rescind Tiago's contract to get a pass here. Two weeks left for a fairly considerable job.
Fuck Aguero, he's a mercenary, I agree that Marotta can't be blamed for missing on him. However, by invoking several specific names in interviews (Tevez, Aguero, Rossi) he created a level of expectation that he couldn't fulfill. He's a public figure, and he's going to take abuse for that - and rightfully so, in my opinion. Having ambition is one thing, but he should be aware of what it will usually require to buy players of that caliber in this inflated market - this market isn't some new phenomenon, it's been going on like this for awhile now. If you're going to talk the talk, you better have the means to walk the walk; especially with our historically spoiled fan base.
Marotta has brought in some quality this mercato; there's little doubt some good players have been signed. But how can you say he's done brilliantly? That's pretty excessive, man. In my opinion, he's done a shit job of prioritizing - AGAIN - and really targeting 3 of our 4 major weak spots. We'll likely get another defender, but right now LB, CB, and LM can be classified as fairly weak, or pretty damn deficient; I'm satisfied with Licht - although, I don't like the Motta back up plan.
Finally, he's been in charge of our transfers for over 400 days, and we still don't have a proper LM. Not even one (Edit - I guess if you count Paquato, and we keep him, that's 1 - albeit 1 who's unproven at this level). Despite Marotta hiring TWO managers who preferentially employ a 4-4-2. How is that even possible? That's just so much time to scout players, set aside a healthy budget, and make a strong move - it should have been done well before the last couple weeks of the mercato.
Anyway, hopefully we'll sign Alex and Vargas (I haven't seen enough of Ramirez to rate him), while keeping Pasquato. I'd love to see that physicality added to our lineup - both of those guys can knock some heads. If that happens, then this has been a pretty good mercato, despite a certain group feeling cheated that we didn't bring in the desired 'big name'.