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I dont understand one thing. Maybe people will laugh at this question but still, ill ask it...... Why is Juve so dependent on Marotta? Am i looking at things the wrong way, or are we the only team that have a separate guy to make our transfers. We put all our transfers on his account, while when you look at Man U for example, its all Sir Alex's "fault". At Real its the president/coach. Barca is the president/coach etc. So my question is, WHO the fuck chooses which player will be bought at Juve? Marotta? I could never figure this out about Juventus. Please someone answer.....
Conte and Marotta in unison. This has all been made clear during the press conferences in connection with Conte's appointment. Conte has given Marotta a list of players that he wants. This has been confirmed both by Conte and Marotta.
Before, in Italy, the general manager or president or board was a lot more disconnected with the coach. They brought the players they wanted, and the coach was forced to work with what they gave him. But now, Italian clubs have shifted to a much more "british" model, where the coach has a lot of say.
Take Milan for example. The only reason Pirlo was shipped out this summer was the fact that Allegri wanted someone more physical in his place. Galliani nodded, and did what the coach asked.
Conte is basically saying "go fetch" and Marotta is chasing the targets, doing the best he can.
Before, in Italy, the general manager or president or board was a lot more disconnected with the coach. They brought the players they wanted, and the coach was forced to work with what they gave him. But now, Italian clubs have shifted to a much more "british" model, where the coach has a lot of say.
Take Milan for example. The only reason Pirlo was shipped out this summer was the fact that Allegri wanted someone more physical in his place. Galliani nodded, and did what the coach asked.
Conte is basically saying "go fetch" and Marotta is chasing the targets, doing the best he can.
Ok, you answered my question. But one more thing is unclear to me....If this is the case, why every time we have been linked with a certain bad player, the fault was 100% Marotta's? And another thing, if we dont get a certain player (that both the coach and the GM wanted) because he is too expensive, is it the GM's fault that he couldnt negotiated a lower price or is it the directors' fault for not managing to acquire all that money?
Yes, well, it's not 100 % Marotta's fault, or Galliani's or Branca's etc. It's really not. But you will never hear those guys go out and say: "Well, it's all Delneri's fault." "It's all Ancelotti's fault." "It's all Conte's fault." Because these are professionals of the highest order. And it is also a part of their job to take pressure away from the coach, his staff and his players. This is one of the important aspects of their job.
Now, with that said, Italian coaches don't have the same amount of responsiblity regarding transfers as English managers do, so there's still plenty of grounds to point the finger at people such as Marotta and Galliani etc. when things go wrong.
As for your question on who's "fault" it is if a deal doesn't go through because of lack of funds, it's simply down to whatever transfer budget is available. The GM operates within the frames of that budget. Surely, he could spend it all one 1 player, just as Marotta has been given the mandate to do now. There's actually nothing that the board have decided that prevents Marotta from spending 45 million euros on Aguero. So whether or not Aguero comes will be down to Marotta. Aguero is on Conte's list.
But should Marotta spend that 45 million? This is a question he is asking himself. And I really hope he comes to the following conclusion: "No."
Now, with that said, Italian coaches don't have the same amount of responsiblity regarding transfers as English managers do, so there's still plenty of grounds to point the finger at people such as Marotta and Galliani etc. when things go wrong.
As for your question on who's "fault" it is if a deal doesn't go through because of lack of funds, it's simply down to whatever transfer budget is available. The GM operates within the frames of that budget. Surely, he could spend it all one 1 player, just as Marotta has been given the mandate to do now. There's actually nothing that the board have decided that prevents Marotta from spending 45 million euros on Aguero. So whether or not Aguero comes will be down to Marotta. Aguero is on Conte's list.
But should Marotta spend that 45 million? This is a question he is asking himself. And I really hope he comes to the following conclusion: "No."
^ Ok, thank you for your answers. I really wanted to know how much saying does Conte have in the players that will be brought to Juve and which Juve is interested in.....i could never quite understand that.....But, my opinion is that it is much much better when it is only the coach the one that chooses the players. When his hands are untied.....just for the record 
^ Ok, thank you for your answers. I really wanted to know how much saying does Conte have in the players that will be brought to Juve and which Juve is interested in.....i could never quite understand that.....But, my opinion is that it is much much better when it is only the coach the one that chooses the players. When his hands are untied.....just for the record
the generally accepted systems are different in Italy and England. In england its hugely more common for the manager to choose the transfers. In italy its the sporting director who choose the transfers (other than Mourinho). The SD role in Italy is as much as an art form, a buisness role, a skill, as the manager himself. Galliani always has some credit for Milan's success, as Moggi always had credit, and still does, for our success of the past. Its only started to change slightly in England since the foreign owners came in en masse, bringing not just different managerial styles, but also different managerial setups...Damien Comolli for example.
Hard to say for sure which is the better system, given the success over the years of the italian teams compared to that of the english teams, but i prefer the english model. It simplifies matters, and the Manager truly is the Manager, whereas a manager like delneri, seemed just the head coch, making do with whatever he was given to work with. Conte is a stronger personality, and obviously is working alongside marotta, not below or above him. I suspect that Conte has the final say.
Hard to say for sure which is the better system, given the success over the years of the italian teams compared to that of the english teams, but i prefer the english model. It simplifies matters, and the Manager truly is the Manager, whereas a manager like delneri, seemed just the head coch, making do with whatever he was given to work with. Conte is a stronger personality, and obviously is working alongside marotta, not below or above him. I suspect that Conte has the final say.
@ marotta professional of the highest order Because of the Conte I knew well as a player, the Conte I have seen in interviews, the Conte that managed Siena, Atalanta and Bari. He has always had an immensely strong character. His will and spirit are fierce as hell, and as this is his dream job, having seen how the previous managers have done without having control of transfers, I highly doubt he would have taken the job without knowing for sure that he gets the final say on who leaves or arrives.
delneri didnt even have control of team selection, let alone transfers...(see Diego and Buffon v Storari). Zach was not here long enough to have any say. Ferrara was too young and inexperienced to have much to do with transfers. Ranieri DID have a say, how final I am unsure (poulsen v Alonso).
I have also seen Conte and marrota speak about how together they will guide us through the mercato. My suspicion is that it is Conte behind Melo's departure, NOT marotta. The Melo situation is strange. I can only assume that Conte had preconceived ideas about him, which were not altered upon meeting Felipe in the flesh..or...some members of the squad spoke out against Melo (to Conte). It has to be one of those two reasons. No team, unless they are truly desperate for cash, sells their player of the season. It seemed they were trying to sell him soon after Conte arrived, hence in June, when Melo found out that he was been offered for sale, he began speaking out, angry, like a hurt child. Melo's explanation of his soon to be confirmed departure was awkward at best.
as for deschamps one of the main reasons he left was precisely because he wasn't allowed to control transfers...the team was far too good for serie B when he arrived, and the players that were sold had to be sold for financial reasons.
delneri didnt even have control of team selection, let alone transfers...(see Diego and Buffon v Storari). Zach was not here long enough to have any say. Ferrara was too young and inexperienced to have much to do with transfers. Ranieri DID have a say, how final I am unsure (poulsen v Alonso).
I have also seen Conte and marrota speak about how together they will guide us through the mercato. My suspicion is that it is Conte behind Melo's departure, NOT marotta. The Melo situation is strange. I can only assume that Conte had preconceived ideas about him, which were not altered upon meeting Felipe in the flesh..or...some members of the squad spoke out against Melo (to Conte). It has to be one of those two reasons. No team, unless they are truly desperate for cash, sells their player of the season. It seemed they were trying to sell him soon after Conte arrived, hence in June, when Melo found out that he was been offered for sale, he began speaking out, angry, like a hurt child. Melo's explanation of his soon to be confirmed departure was awkward at best.
as for deschamps one of the main reasons he left was precisely because he wasn't allowed to control transfers...the team was far too good for serie B when he arrived, and the players that were sold had to be sold for financial reasons.
