Giuseppe Marotta (72 Viewers)

[Yamen]

Its something laughable indeed.
If management really want to fuckup the club why dont they just say so and enough with the hidden agenda!! This nerve breaking style of management is just making me fume more and more about the club I love.

 

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[JuveJay]

Smokescreen for Messi.

 

[Gian]

Now I understand his thing for loan deals. Payments are paid in installments, Italy has a rule that says that more than three installments aren't possible so its against the rules. Three payments are the max. If you loan your players for let's say 2.5M, who's actual signing price is 10M you actually have four installments, so you gain an extra one. 2.5 x 4 against 3.33 x 3, in Pepe's case.

with this I do think we will sign Quag.

 

[Nomuken]

Before 2008 NEVER in Juventus history, we have ever signed a Player on loan; so It makes me think how much damage has been done since Moratti bent us over.

Btw first player loaned to us Stendardo.

 

[JuveJay]

We also had CL in those seasons.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Marotta: Barzagli to be last Juve signing

“The January transfer window is a difficult one because Juventus are looking for players who can increase the quality of the team,” Marotta noted.

“We’re not buying for the sake of buying and right now I don’t think there are any important players available.

He doesn't even know what is he doing. Was Floro Flores going to increase the quality? It looked like we were signing him for the sake of buying.

 

[Ahmed]

Before 2008 NEVER in Juventus history, we have ever signed a Player on loan; so It makes me think how much damage has been done since Moratti bent us over.

Btw first player loaned to us Stendardo.

if it makes sense financially, there's nothing wrong with it.

it's not against our honor, or anything like that.

it's just good business, IMO.

 

[Alen]

Now I understand his thing for loan deals. Payments are paid in installments, Italy has a rule that says that more than three installments aren't possible so its against the rules. Three payments are the max. If you loan your players for let's say 2.5M, who's actual signing price is 10M you actually have four installments, so you gain an extra one. 2.5 x 4 against 3.33 x 3, in Pepe's case.

with this I do think we will sign Quag.

Nice info and I think you are right.
I think someone (JuveJay?) said something similar once, telling us why Quag and Pepe are Juve players and it's not just a loan with rights to buy. It does look like it's the case. We bought Martinez (paying in 3 installments) and we bought Pepe and Quag (paying in 4 installments), but we had to present them as loans.
Now, this gives us an opportunity to play unfair with Udinese and Napoli, but I don't think we will do that because noone in Italy will like to work with Marotta if we do.

So this would mean that we have to take Quag and Pepe off the 2011 summer budget and if we decide to buy Aquilani we will start with -16m eur.

 

[Hist]

I am about to start crying

 

[Ahmed]

Now I understand his thing for loan deals. Payments are paid in installments, Italy has a rule that says that more than three installments aren't possible so its against the rules. Three payments are the max. If you loan your players for let's say 2.5M, who's actual signing price is 10M you actually have four installments, so you gain an extra one. 2.5 x 4 against 3.33 x 3, in Pepe's case.

with this I do think we will sign Quag.

so we can't return them?

 

[Bianconero81]

So, theoretically, we threw more money away, only this time it's to be divided over 3 or 4 installments as opposed to throwing money away all at once, as we did in the Amauri case.

It's like buying a car or condo in cash as opposed to putting a down payment.

 

[Salvo]

Marotta cannot be blamed if someone does not come, the issue is the fact that there is no money. Elkann is the one to blame.

 

[Gian]

So, theoretically, we threw more money away, only this time it's to be divided over 3 or 4 installments as opposed to throwing money away all at once, as we did in the Amauri case.

It's like buying a car or condo in cash as opposed to putting a down payment.

I dont think we threw away more. We just gained an extra installment for the payment.
3 x 3.33 or 4 x 2.5, what is best depends mainly on the situation and since we expect to have a higher budget in the future than we had last summer, it's understandable why Marotta has chosen the loan way. It can actually improve the situation or make it more easier signing some more players.

Marotta cannot be blamed if someone does not come, the issue is the fact that there is no money. Elkann is the one to blame.

I don't think we should play the blame game, we can find a scapegoat like we did with Secco but it may be clearer now that Secco wasn't the biggest of our problems since we are in a similair crisis like last year, in a similair period. His interview recently showed he wasnt that much of an idiot and for someone without experience we had set our bars/standard too high for him.

 

[Zlatan]

What interview is that?

 

[Gian]

He had given this interview on Italian TV once, dont know for sure which sport program it was but he told something about his vision and where he went wrong.

 

[Nomuken]

if it makes sense financially, there's nothing wrong with it.

it's not against our honor, or anything like that.

it's just good business, IMO.

It's not that it doesn't make sense to me financially, it's just how much damage had been done since Moratti's debauchery.

 

[Cronios]

So we let Diego on cheap, just to buy Barza?
Meh...

 

[JuveJay]

No we sold him to get a player who is effective.

 

[Cronios]

I m not questioning the reason, i m questioning the amount we sold him, thats what made that sale epic bad.
And there has to be a logical explanation behind the reason we sold him off like that.
Some ppl suggested a secret deal for Dzeko, but it seems that it was a secret deal for Barza??

 

[JuveJay]

Looks like both are off the mark really. Of course all this negotiating with Wolfsburg means we have some kind of relationship with them now, seems we have the shit end of the stick though.