i didint mean all. take your pic out of any. 100% gurantee he will either loan them, fail to sell, or sell for a ridicousl low value
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if we signed higuain/jovetic/both of course marotta takes the credit no matter how they perform considering that we've been 4-5 years without any quality upfront and considering all those forwards that we've seen playing for us this few past years.if they fail miserably, it's the entire coaching team that is sure to blame, since I honestly can't see higuain/jovetic + llorente to fail, unless they are having personal problems that is.
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does marotta coach the team? does marotta arrange the training camp? does marotta select the starting XI? does marotta talks to the players and team? does marotta tinker with the strategy?
players value increased due to their performances, very little to do where and how did they ended up at. then I ask you the same questions as I ask above.
does marotta coach the team? does marotta arrange the training camp? does marotta select the starting XI? does marotta talks to the players and team? does marotta tinker with the strategy?
Marotta handles the financial situation. The financial situation is based off of how he buys and sells players, manages investments, and most importantly, how the team performs on the pitch in order to generate revenue. Revenue arrives from sponsorship deals, attendances, and various success in the football market. What is the main driving factor that makes a team successful? Well duh, success at home and abroad. Who creates the success? Well, a general manager who buys the right players, along with the coach who decides and trains the team with the players acting as the frontline of the organization.
Marotta has purchased players who have had success, others who have not. But the main burden of success lies upon the coach and the players who produce the product on the pitch. The GM can only act as a catalyst to generate success; without proper management and staff below, the organization won't be successful. This is a very important rule of managerial analysis. You're only as good as the staff that produces and markets your product.
So that's why I think very lowly of Marotta, someone who has had obvious failures in the transfer market, including the inability to sell players for decent sums and pull off risk/reward transfers that Moggi handled. Marotta signs the players that do not take effort to entice, those that already play for the Azzurri and in Italy. Of course they want to sign for the best team in Italy. The others from abroad wanted to join Juve as well, whether it be Vidal, Llorente, or Barzagli. They are not difficult transfers, they are transfers that any large club could pull off.
Therefore, in my view, the praise rests solely on Conte who changed the dynamics of the side and revitalized the club. He was the manager who brought out the best in the players, including Barzagli (who was always a sporadic defender beforehand), and instilled the passion to succeed again as an organization.
Essentially, it doesn't matter who Marotta purchased -- Conte would have succeeded to some degree with whatever base of players that he had at his disposal. Why? Because Conte is an intelligent player, coach, and individual. The proof is in the pudding with the way he handled the lack of a decent striker this term. What a bunch of mongoloid one trick ponies.
I will give credit to Marrota for Pogba, however. That is the single signing that actually took skill and acumen. So credit to him there.
Marotta has purchased players who have had success, others who have not. But the main burden of success lies upon the coach and the players who produce the product on the pitch. The GM can only act as a catalyst to generate success; without proper management and staff below, the organization won't be successful. This is a very important rule of managerial analysis. You're only as good as the staff that produces and markets your product.
So that's why I think very lowly of Marotta, someone who has had obvious failures in the transfer market, including the inability to sell players for decent sums and pull off risk/reward transfers that Moggi handled. Marotta signs the players that do not take effort to entice, those that already play for the Azzurri and in Italy. Of course they want to sign for the best team in Italy. The others from abroad wanted to join Juve as well, whether it be Vidal, Llorente, or Barzagli. They are not difficult transfers, they are transfers that any large club could pull off.
Therefore, in my view, the praise rests solely on Conte who changed the dynamics of the side and revitalized the club. He was the manager who brought out the best in the players, including Barzagli (who was always a sporadic defender beforehand), and instilled the passion to succeed again as an organization.
Essentially, it doesn't matter who Marotta purchased -- Conte would have succeeded to some degree with whatever base of players that he had at his disposal. Why? Because Conte is an intelligent player, coach, and individual. The proof is in the pudding with the way he handled the lack of a decent striker this term. What a bunch of mongoloid one trick ponies.
I will give credit to Marrota for Pogba, however. That is the single signing that actually took skill and acumen. So credit to him there.
Interesting logic,
"Marotta signs the players that do not take effort to entice, those that already play for the Azzurri and in Italy"
So, if we extrapolate that it means players will allways chose for the richer or higher current reputated team.
Wich is pretty much how we didnt got any big striker we went for, bar Llorente.
Second flaw, if it was so easy for marotta, then how milan and inter are in such shapes ? Marotta fixed our finances, the ugly but neccecary way.
He is not the manager the fans wanted, but the manager we need.
"Marotta signs the players that do not take effort to entice, those that already play for the Azzurri and in Italy"
So, if we extrapolate that it means players will allways chose for the richer or higher current reputated team.
Wich is pretty much how we didnt got any big striker we went for, bar Llorente.
Second flaw, if it was so easy for marotta, then how milan and inter are in such shapes ? Marotta fixed our finances, the ugly but neccecary way.
He is not the manager the fans wanted, but the manager we need.
Again, duh. Unless some persuasion exists, the player will always join the team with bigger the donk. But it doesn't always work that way. Learn about the Marketing Mix.
Others fixed the finances as well. Like I said, success on the pitch rules all. Inter and Milan are clown town shows, they took the short road for success and it backfired to some degree. We took the very long road to success after multiple failures without a sound business plan... whatsoever.
Others fixed the finances as well. Like I said, success on the pitch rules all. Inter and Milan are clown town shows, they took the short road for success and it backfired to some degree. We took the very long road to success after multiple failures without a sound business plan... whatsoever.
You consider barzagli, lichtsteiner easy transfers ?
How about vidal ? bayeren couldnt get him, but other teams could have. he allready had played quite the season.
and how about players with to big wages ? teams just not wanting our wasteplayers ?
remember failed italians, go to other italian teams, who are all in crisis pretty much
How about vidal ? bayeren couldnt get him, but other teams could have. he allready had played quite the season.
and how about players with to big wages ? teams just not wanting our wasteplayers ?
remember failed italians, go to other italian teams, who are all in crisis pretty much
I guess what it comes down to is this: Marotta has the authority to make mistakes on the transfer market as long as he keeps the financial situation in order. In other words, he can waste capital as long as it's not a massive loss. But again, the success of the business relies mostly upon the success of the team, so the evaluation of the situation here is flawed.
I would be happy to write a SWOT and PEST analysis of our current state.
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Vidal wanted to join us from day one. That seemed apparent from day one.
I would be happy to write a SWOT and PEST analysis of our current state.
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Vidal wanted to join us from day one. That seemed apparent from day one.
from financial pov, he did a good job. And sticking to italians for a while, was indeed, the best way to get players, as for italians, juve tends to be the best destination as they dont like to go abroad.
I cant think of any manager that would have done his job, looking at our finances, and the key players in conte's juve. we were beggers, not chosers.
Now, we can move into the "choser" part. Wich is likely why conte wants to have his say. instead of fitting his formation around the next economic coup from marotta, he now wants us to sign specific youngsters, have the primavera play his formations, and decide on what high quality player we are getting.
Would you think of jovetic as a good transfer ? Or does he require to bring Jovetic and Higuain ?
I cant think of any manager that would have done his job, looking at our finances, and the key players in conte's juve. we were beggers, not chosers.
Now, we can move into the "choser" part. Wich is likely why conte wants to have his say. instead of fitting his formation around the next economic coup from marotta, he now wants us to sign specific youngsters, have the primavera play his formations, and decide on what high quality player we are getting.
Would you think of jovetic as a good transfer ? Or does he require to bring Jovetic and Higuain ?
Ever since Marotta took charge a couple of years ago, the quality of our team has significantly gone up. A lot of people forget how vital Pirlo was last year. Licht was an excellent transfer, as well as Pogba, Vidal. We went from consecutive 7th place finishes and seemed like we were doomed for many years to come. Two years later, and we're by far the most dominant team in Italy and are slowly retaining our position among Europe's elite. Marotta does have his flaws and we've had a few useless and idiotic transfers that were clearly going to fail. But given how quickly we were able to recover and become a top team, as much as you gotta hand it to Conte, Marotta did play his part.
I don't think it matters if the transfers he made were easy or not. They don't have to be hard to be considered successful. Another point is that we're not as attractive as people think. Marotta can't convince top players that Serie A is the place to be. We're in the 4th best league in the world, and to get the very best, it's not enough to dominate in Italy.
Despite that, we're still signing some quality players and might sign more this summer. Point is, his job is anything but easy. No team in Italy has it easy or good. And we just have it a little bit better than the rest in Serie A.
In any case, it's very early to compare Marotta to Moggi. In 3 years if we're not among the best 4 or 5 teams in Europe, then we can say Moggi did a better job. But at this point, in the early stages of a long project, it's not fair to compare the two.
I don't think it matters if the transfers he made were easy or not. They don't have to be hard to be considered successful. Another point is that we're not as attractive as people think. Marotta can't convince top players that Serie A is the place to be. We're in the 4th best league in the world, and to get the very best, it's not enough to dominate in Italy.
Despite that, we're still signing some quality players and might sign more this summer. Point is, his job is anything but easy. No team in Italy has it easy or good. And we just have it a little bit better than the rest in Serie A.
In any case, it's very early to compare Marotta to Moggi. In 3 years if we're not among the best 4 or 5 teams in Europe, then we can say Moggi did a better job. But at this point, in the early stages of a long project, it's not fair to compare the two.
From a benchmarking point of view in strategic planning, which is where you place your operational plans against those of market leaders, you can't just say the market leaders are wonderful and we are not going to make changes to our business. That is a defeatist attitude, conformist, and asinine. We need to change that so we can become market leaders.
The business objective now is to entice players to join Juventus from foreign leagues, those that might have had more success recently as a whole. You simply cannot approach any business claiming others are more successful and leave at that. You need a business plan, which I don't think Marotta has considering he only targets Italian-based players for the most part.
The business objective now is to entice players to join Juventus from foreign leagues, those that might have had more success recently as a whole. You simply cannot approach any business claiming others are more successful and leave at that. You need a business plan, which I don't think Marotta has considering he only targets Italian-based players for the most part.
There's a difference between changing to become better and changing because not changing is too 'conformist'.
I'm not saying we should settle for mediocrity, but we shouldn't be impatient. We should face the facts and see the situation for what it really is. Italy is in decline and we're the only team really holding our own. Other teams should join this rebuilding phase, and once this league becomes attractive again, once sponsors value Serie A more than they do now, it would be correct to higher our demands.
The guy's doing a good job. Once he fails to deliver, he's gone. So far, he hasn't failed overall. We're a winning team and we're planning on building on it. I don't see the problem. A great, and brilliant philosopher once said, "Don't fix what ain't broken."
I'm not saying we should settle for mediocrity, but we shouldn't be impatient. We should face the facts and see the situation for what it really is. Italy is in decline and we're the only team really holding our own. Other teams should join this rebuilding phase, and once this league becomes attractive again, once sponsors value Serie A more than they do now, it would be correct to higher our demands.
The guy's doing a good job. Once he fails to deliver, he's gone. So far, he hasn't failed overall. We're a winning team and we're planning on building on it. I don't see the problem. A great, and brilliant philosopher once said, "Don't fix what ain't broken."
