Giuseppe Marotta (95 Viewers)

[napoleonic]

how could people defend marrotta because we won the scudetto? that was at least 80% conte's work!

remember our pathetic defense at 10/11 campaign? that was the same defense that became unbeatable last season and that is obviously because of conte.

our play style was pathetic despite having guys like melo, diego and amauri who were arguably NOT THAT FAR from the current MVP + Vucinic; and the same marchisio! who changed that? conte!

under conte we could see even marrone looked good as a sweeper, we can see asamoah good as an lwb, etc these are definitely because of conte! trust me, ranieri, zaccherroni, del neri wouldn't do that! we all know how bad and uber conservative they were! del neri and ranieri would perhaps benched pirlo and opt for 4-4-2 with vidal marchisio on the center!

that's all conte's work!

 

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[Salvo]

how could people defend marrotta because we won the scudetto? that was at least 80% conte's work!

remember our pathetic defense at 10/11 campaign? that was the same defense that became unbeatable last season and that is obviously because of conte.

our play style was pathetic despite having guys like melo, diego and amauri who were arguably NOT THAT FAR from the current MVP + Vucinic; and the same marchisio! who changed that? conte!

under conte we could see even marrone looked good as a sweeper, we can see asamoah good as an lwb, etc these are definitely because of conte! trust me, ranieri, zaccherroni, del neri wouldn't do that! we all know how bad and uber conservative they were! del neri and ranieri would perhaps benched pirlo and opt for 4-4-2 with vidal marchisio on the center!

that's all conte's work!

Hardcore facts!

 

[The Arif]

Obviously. No one can doubt those facts.

 

[napoleonic]

and marotta now it seems like he didn't have any plan B... no actually his plan B was panic buying; he should've at least looked on smaller leagues top scorers like eredivisie for example instead of loaning bendtner!

surely we could've landed bas dost or luuk de jong or john guidetti here?

 

[only-juve]

.....It's all relative. Real Madrid have been building a fantastic squad for years, we are at the second or third stage now. They don't need to spend what we do. In the next breath you'll then complain because we haven't spent €30m+ on the striker we need.

We will stay at that 2nd-3rd stage forever as long as Marotta is here. Some of you guys are a pretty smart people (atleast i've felt that from reading your posts), can't believe you'd buy that bullshit Marotta is pulling on us every season.

The man was running around looking for who's available out there and in the last days he got panicked found that berbatov was available so he thought why not let's sign him, when that didn't work he went to the next available player in the Market.

He doesn't really looks at the player's qualities or what the team really needs but rather what's available out there. We sign them got stock with them for a few years and then sell them for a loss. That's a pattern that's been happening with us ever since he came here.

Personally I see a guy who tries hard to save his job knowing that this is the biggest achievement in his career.

 

[The Arif]

and marotta now it seems like he didn't have any plan B... no actually his plan B was panic buying; he should've at least looked on smaller leagues top scorers like eredivisie for example instead of loaning bendtner!

surely we could've landed bas dost or luuk de jong or john guidetti here?

Another hardcore fact right there.

 

[Linebreak]

Marotta should go back to being the SD of some provincial club which is clearly closer to his level.

 

[Ahmed]

Calciomercato reads Tuz.

http://www.calciomercato.com/mercato/agnelli-ora-deve-diventare-grande-826511

In the event of any president of the football team, there is a moment in which you need to grow up. There is a moment in the history of any owner of a great football team, which is essential to act in person, bypassing CEOs and general managers.

At Juventus, we recall two examples: in 1982 Giampiero Boniperti had decided that the two foreigners Bianconeri were Brady and Boniek, but Gianni Agnelli chose to person Platini and took him to Turin in 2004 was instead Umberto Agnelli who decided to hand over the bench Juventus' Fabio Capello, while Moggi and Giraudo were thinking about other solutions.

Speaking of Milan, it is unnecessary to recall the intervention and the decisiveness of Silvio Berlusconi (also) in the vicissitudes of the market, both in the role of President and in that of the owner, while for Inter remind the operation Ibrahimovic-Eto'o ' or, probably hit the market and most important redittizio (in economic and technical terms) in Inter's history, a negotiation carried out directly by the Moratti Massimo Moratti with the former Barcelona president, Joan Laporta.

Andrea Agnelli, president of Juventus, the 'moment' starts from today. Interventionist justice issues in the field of sports and sports policy, the young Agnelli must now learn to establish itself on the market. The campaign transfers summer 2012 it has been shown that men market the company champion Italy, Beppe Marotta and Fabio Guild, are very good when it comes to packaging operations of medium and small vessels, but leave much to be desired when it comes time to address important business. And it's not just a matter of budget, it is also (if not primarily) a matter of personality and charisma. The personality and charisma that from now on will have to demonstrate that they have Agnelli also in a market, to sit at a table with the biggest clubs in Europe and to be able, finally, to bring in some great Juventus player, starting from January 2013

 

[frzl]

remember our pathetic defense at 10/11 campaign? that was the same defense that became unbeatable last season and that is obviously because of conte.

yeah i think lichtsteiner, barzagli (who came half way through the season) and vidal in front of defence didn´t have anything to do with that ^^
still i agree that conte deserves more credit than anybody else.

 

[baggio]

It's true. Marrotta operates at Juventus like he would at Sampdoria. The only difference is he has more access to the midrange of players because of the Juve brand, but has nothing beyond that and therefore can't close on the biggies. A lot of people here seem to mistake that our issues were a limited budget to work with. That's not the case at all. Getting Isla, Asa and Giovinco in no way hampered the big player upfront. We had the money this year but lacked the focus, because Marrotta wanted a bargain. Going for a bargain ment spreading ourselves thin in the market, not looking at players and characteristics. As a result, even what would be available inside Italy, guys like Cavani and JoJo, are now not only going to be in a new price band, but also on a more competitive salary that will threaten our salary cap. Same goes for players like Suarez, Higuain too, after their renewals. If we fail to get Llorente, which I think we will, the only real option from this year's pool will be Dzeko. But that said, even if we have an outside chance of signing any of the abovementioned players for a cut price, please don't forget, their wages will now play a big factor in our ability to afford them. That was one variable jn our favour this year, and it won't be the case next year. Marrotta cannot get a big name and money has nothing to do with it.

 

[Bianconero81]

The "Marotta Apologists" utilizing cheap tactics. If we can't refute the points being raised by members such as Napoleonic, Only-Juve, or the Cusp, we shall resort to sarcasm, cynicism, and hitting below the belt. Anything to protect their one true master, the upholder of justice, their one eyed god Marotta.

 

[JCK]

I don't want to fire him, but I don't want to extend his contract. Ranieri was a good coach for us, but he was never going to take us to the next level, that leap in quality that was required. Marotta is the Ranieri of sporting directors. He might build you a solid team, with many good components, but he can't seem to negotiate for the top players, or close the big deals. The bottom line is, unless we unearth a couple of gems ourselves, he's not going to get us any real quality in attack.

And I wonder now who is the sport director that is succeeding in bringing top players. I know it sounds exactly like when people were asking for Ranieri's head and I was wondering who to replace him, I was against Zaccherroni, against Del Neri and even against Conte. I was not against Ferrara the last two games but I wasn't sure of him. And look how it turend out to be, all failed except for Conte who was a gamble that succeeded. I know many would say he wasn't a gamble and they already knew the potential but the fact remains that he surprised, impressed and bossed with style. Now are you willing to take your chances from one director to another UNTIL that one director that can surprise, impress and boss is found? You know the director's work can be seen twice a year, a manager's work can be judged the entire season. This makes changing directors a very lengthy process.

 

[Bianconero81]

Calciomercato reads Tuz.

http://www.calciomercato.com/mercato/agnelli-ora-deve-diventare-grande-826511

Agnelli talks too much. He should talk less, and act more.

 

[Zlatan]

We will stay at that 2nd-3rd stage forever as long as Marotta is here. Some of you guys are a pretty smart people (atleast i've felt that from reading your posts), can't believe you'd buy that bullshit Marotta is pulling on us every season.

The man was running around looking for who's available out there and in the last days he got panicked found that berbatov was available so he thought why not let's sign him, when that didn't work he went to the next available player in the Market.

He doesn't really looks at the player's qualities or what the team really needs but rather what's available out there. We sign them got stock with them for a few years and then sell them for a loss. That's a pattern that's been happening with us ever since he came here.


Personally I see a guy who tries hard to save his job knowing that this is the biggest achievement in his career.

And that is exactly what you are suggesting and what Marotta DID NOT do.


I'm not happy with the striker situation at all, but the market was very tough and there simply weren't any top strikers available.

Some are suggesting we should have bought a player from a smaller league, but that exactly would be spedning money ona player with no or little improvement in quality and being stuck with him and his wages.


There was no top striker available so Marotta chose not to do a Matri-like transfer, spend 15-20 mil € on an average player.


Instead, he kept the team the same and added a different option for free and for a very low buyout fee.


So we are not stuck with him in case we can get a better, top striker and can get rid of him easily. Yet, we have a different option in attack. He's not better than matri, but allowes us to play a different style which can be important against certain teams. We don't have more quality, but we have more flexibility.


A lot of people were saying that if we cant get a top striker we shouldn't buy anyone. The current situation cant in any way be worse than not buying anyone, its at least a bitt better because we have more tacical options now.

 

[Martin]

And I wonder now who is the sport director that is succeeding in bringing top players. I know it sounds exactly like when people were asking for Ranieri's head and I was wondering who to replace him, I was against Zaccherroni, against Del Neri and even against Conte. I was not against Ferrara the last two games but I wasn't sure of him. And look how it turend out to be, all failed except for Conte who was a gamble that succeeded. I know many would say he wasn't a gamble and they already knew the potential but the fact remains that he surprised, impressed and bossed with style. Now are you willing to take your chances from one director to another UNTIL that one director that can surprise, impress and boss is found? You know the director's work can be seen twice a year, a manager's work can be judged the entire season. This makes changing directors a very lengthy process.

I hate to be such a cliché but well said.

 

[Bianconero81]

And I wonder now who is the sport director that is succeeding in bringing top players. I know it sounds exactly like when people were asking for Ranieri's head and I was wondering who to replace him, I was against Zaccherroni, against Del Neri and even against Conte. I was not against Ferrara the last two games but I wasn't sure of him. And look how it turend out to be, all failed except for Conte who was a gamble that succeeded. I know many would say he wasn't a gamble and they already knew the potential but the fact remains that he surprised, impressed and bossed with style. Now are you willing to take your chances from one director to another UNTIL that one director that can surprise, impress and boss is found? You know the director's work can be seen twice a year, a manager's work can be judged the entire season. This makes changing directors a very lengthy process.

I don't know who that director could possibly be. However, I don't work in the football world, so that's not exactly my job. I can't suggest names, but I am of the opinion that Marotta has taken us as far as he possibly can. It's time for someone else to come in, and assist us in making that leap in quality. It's a risk, but hiring Conte was a risk, as is every transfer we make. Marotta isn't going to be with us forever anyway, and sooner or later we'll have to make that change.

 

[JCK]

I don't know who that director could possibly be. However, I don't work in the football world, so that's not exactly my job. I can't suggest names, but I am of the opinion that Marotta has taken us as far as he possibly can. It's time for someone else to come in, and assist us in making that leap in quality. It's a risk, but hiring Conte was a risk, as is every transfer we make. Marotta isn't going to be with us forever anyway, and sooner or later we'll have to make that change.

Well since you say that it is not exactly your job then suggesting to fire someone without having a clue on who to replace him is just frustration and feelings. Take a minute to breathe, isolate your feelings and come up with a good statement instead. I too got frustrated to the bones from all the transfer news this summer, to the point that I was on the verge of going into ugly arguments with members that I like but I never thought of firing Marotta. It is a fact that his style (or what we see from it) is annoying and unpleasant but we don't know more than that and we cannot suggest someone else. The best thing we can do is wish the club the best in the upcoming challenges, starting from tomorrow. That's our job afterall.

 

[Bianconero81]

Well since you say that it is not exactly your job then suggesting to fire someone without having a clue on who to replace him is just frustration and feelings. Take a minute to breathe, isolate your feelings and come up with a good statement instead. I too got frustrated to the bones from all the transfer news this summer, to the point that I was on the verge of going into ugly arguments with members that I like but I never thought of firing Marotta. It is a fact that his style (or what we see from it) is annoying and unpleasant but we don't know more than that and we cannot suggest someone else. The best thing we can do is wish the club the best in the upcoming challenges, starting from tomorrow. That's our job afterall.

A lot of it is anger, disappointment, and frustration. However, tomorrow is a new day, and I'm looking forward to our game against Udinese, and excited by the challenge the CL presents.

In all honesty, I could throw names like Sabatini, Baldini, Capello, Lippi, or even the Udinese sporting director, but there's no guarantee they'd do a better job.

 

[JCK]

A lot of it is anger, disappointment, and frustration. However, tomorrow is a new day, and I'm looking forward to our game against Udinese, and excited by the challenge the CL presents.

In all honesty, I could throw names like Sabatini, Baldini, Capello, Lippi, or even the Udinese sporting director, but there's no guarantee they'd do a better job.

I look at a pattern, so far it has brought fruit, will it work two years in a row? The top management seem to be in agreement on everything being done, including Conte and Carrera.

 

[Cronios]

The "Marotta Apologists" utilizing cheap tactics. If we can't refute the points being raised by members such as Napoleonic, Only-Juve, or the Cusp, we shall resort to sarcasm, cynicism, and hitting below the belt. Anything to protect their one true master, the upholder of justice, their one eyed god Marotta.

they dont do it defend Marotta, they are just trolling, like they do with every other topic, Marotta yesterday have lost even the dellusionists...