Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,002
Currently, I've seen worse, and I've seen longer. My philosophy is also about ability, as part of a wider skill set.
... that includes nationality. You think you can hide your love for Pepe just because you believe he has ability? Of course not. The only reason you accept him here is because he's on the Azzurri, period. If he was a Serb like Krasic, you'd hate him. No doubt about that.


You think because I like having an Italian identity at the club I would prefer to have those players? :lol: I judge without bias.
That's a lie. Half the players on this squad wouldn't receive any respect from you if that was the case, because you're seemingly a rational human being. But instead you provide excuses for Pepe, Barzagli, Toni, et cetera, along with the whole give them time meme.

It's been a year. You said you wouldn't judge until the end of the season. Well here it is, it's the end of the road, we are still terrible, yet you're still Marotta fluffing by bringing up past statistics. Well, sorry, but nobody is buying your shit no mo'. You might not want to admit it, but Marotta has had a hand in our predicament this season, and that is because he's given extra points to Italians over raw ability.

It's audacious, I know, but there is some middle ground. 'They're all shit' is a recurring theme.
As I said, if I wanted your opinion, I'd ask DN or Marotta. That's exactly what they would say. And yes, they're all shit. Pepe, Barzagli, Motta, Grosso, and at times Aquilani... yes, they're all shit.


Or just someone who prefers to look at things objectively rather than 'IT'S ALL SHIT'.
If you look at things "objectively", then it's from the mid-table sense, nothing else. I don't see any objectivity in you at all. You said give these guys a chance. And on top of all that, you deny that certain players are more cherished because of their nationality.

As I said, if Pepe was a Honduran, he'd be playing in the MLS. But here's you saying that no such bias exists, these players are here on their own merit. It's bullshit. And from watching your own Azzurri, you know it.
 

only-juve

Senior Member
Jan 5, 2008
7,451
I agree but I know he's saying it just cuz he wants his old job back. Delneri has been way more dissapointing while Marotta has been slightly above average.
I would blame Marotta more than even DN for the horrible season we're having right now. Buying players for ridicolous fees knowing that they'll play out of position (martinez). Selling someone like Diego after just one season for a horrible loss (not to mention Giovinco's price). Even players that are loaned here have a ridicolous high fixed price.

All in all he IMO did a shit job....
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,526
I would blame Marotta more than even DN for the horrible season we're having right now. Buying players for ridicolous fees knowing that they'll play out of position (martinez). Selling someone like Diego after just one season for a horrible loss (not to mention Giovinco's price). Even players that are loaned here have a ridicolous high fixed price.

All in all he IMO did a shit job....
Can't really argue with you there. They should both piss off.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,175
F em both. Marrota is an incompetent upstart who virtually has nothing to offer. He is just as guilty, if not more so than that clown abiding by the name of Del Neri.

This team sucks donkey balls; it's full of incompetent Italians, acquired by a delusional sporting director and coached by a clueless coach, who were in turn both hired by a raw and inexperienced management team running, or rather ruining this club.

As Nedved said earlier today/yesterday, the players on this team don't understand what it means to represent Juventus (moreover, they also suck so bad, that it wouldn't matter if they knew, as they wouldn't have the necessary tools or skills to succeed here regardless), and those who used to know seem to have somehow forgotten.

Thank you Del Neri and Marotta for allowing this loser mentality to creep into our once proud team, and even lead champions like Buffon, Chiellini, and Del Piero to start having serious doubts.
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,916
... that includes nationality. You think you can hide your love for Pepe etc...
Of course, black and white, I don't slate him at every opportunity so I must love him. Yawn. Waste of time replying further to something I've already covered, you base your opinion on inaccuracies of mine.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Lose faith at the end of the window not when it hasn't even begun yet.
How many windows Nic? The writings on the wall. This guy doesn't know his ass from his elbow. One season, it might be easier to contain the damage than if we gave him two. He's out of his depth and Antonio Conte coming in as coach, proves it. He's bowing to public pressure, coz he doesn't really know what a team like Juve needs. Secco and co. were better and more ambitious than this trash.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
Administrator
May 27, 2007
88,989
I found his old quote :touched:

Del Neri ready for Juventus?
"Absolutely. Del Neri is one of the best coaches around. It is right that a company like Juventus think to him."


Juventus fans are expecting a lot after a disastrous season ...
"It is clear that all hope that Juventus could return to that position that the responsibility for its coat and its glorious history. I'll do everything to help you find the right place."
 

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