Giuseppe Marotta (62 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

yup, it would be a disastrous deal. Like if we need money and have to sell higuain for say 50mil and caldara for 40-45 mil, I'm fine. Its just a sacrifice for CR7. BUT... if we sell Higuain to get rid of his 7 mil salary and then get Bonucci on the same salary, plus lose 1 of the world's most promising young defenders in Caldara, that would be an absolute disaster because we would barely be getting any extra money.

So, if we swap Bonucci for Caldara. And then get 20 mil loan fee + 35 mil option/obligation we barely get any money? 55 mil is barely any money?

Higuain's salary is 7.5 mil. Bonucci is reported to be getting 5.5 mil if he returns.

But don't let that stand in the way of your "facts"

 

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[dyl1dyl]

So, if we swap Bonucci for Caldara. And then get 20 mil loan fee + 35 mil option/obligation we barely get any money? 55 mil is barely any money?

Higuain's salary is 7.5 mil. Bonucci is reported to be getting 5.5 mil if he returns.

But don't let that stand in the way of your "facts"

This would be key, a big paycut. And yeah, 55 mil is decent but it's not exactly a lot when you consider that we lose an elite striker. Higuain isn't going to be replaced and that's a lot of goals gone.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

After the best transfer in our history, we are considering the worst transfer in our history. I don't believe they are linked, as we have alternatives to make money.
Untill the very last moment i will have faith on Beppe, but if a straight swap really happens, this faith will be shattered...

I much prefer it when you hate anyway...

 

[Post Ironic]

This would be key, a big paycut. And yeah, 55 mil is decent but it's not exactly a lot when you consider that we lose an elite striker. Higuain isn't going to be replaced and that's a lot of goals gone.

What on earth are you talking about?

We have the exact same players in attack, except for now we have Cristiano Ronaldo instead of Higuain.

Are you seriously suggesting Ronaldo isn't going to be able to make up for the lost goals of Higuain?

 

[Valerio.]

So, if we swap Bonucci for Caldara. And then get 20 mil loan fee + 35 mil option/obligation we barely get any money? 55 mil is barely any money?

Higuain's salary is 7.5 mil. Bonucci is reported to be getting 5.5 mil if he returns.

But don't let that stand in the way of your "facts"

Higuain weight on our revenue is 33m getting Bonucci in would cost us 21m x 4 years.
Such a smart move for a defender like Bonucci!

 

[Juliano13]

If he swaps Caldara for Bonucci he should be fired with no compensation

 

[mukumsplau]

imagine waiting all this time since ur purchase to play for juve....

and boom

you end up at milan

talk about blue balls

 

[Hust]

If he swaps Caldara for Bonucci he should be fired with no compensation

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I much prefer it when you hate anyway...

Cronios is on the emotional roller coaster for the first time.

For years, he sat and watched outside the turnstiles at all the grownups getting on for the ride and yearning to share those emotions and screams...now he is big enough to get on the ride. All he hears now is the clanking from the chain as it takes the carts up the hill and he sees the summit and only now has he looked down for the first time. He's terrified. We all were our first ride down the angry slope of Mt. Beppe.

When the ride is over, his faith will have been shattered mid-ride but restored when he pulls into the gate and he looks at the photo booth of him on the ride. And wouldn't you know, in all that angst, he smiled.

Diary of a Lost Little Cron

 

[Monty]

imagine waiting all this time since ur purchase to play for juve....

and boom

you end up at milan

talk about blue balls

with a higher salary and probably as a starter...

 

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[s4tch]

that means that milan is getting a younger, already very good cb for a failing, very expensive player, and on top of that, a classy striker by investing 14,5m a year. we're saving the same amount and have one wc striker less.

i'm out of words, really.

 

[Juliano13]

that means that milan is getting a younger, already very good cb for a failing, very expensive player, and on top of that, a classy striker by investing 14,5m a year. we're saving the same amount and have one wc striker less.

i'm out of words, really.

This proves beyond any doubt how terrible the Higuain deal was. If this is somehow a good deal then Higuain for 94m was terrible business. If Higuain was a good deal, then we just got royally screwed by Milan.

Either way, there is no defense for Marotta.

 

[Tomate]

that means that milan is getting a younger, already very good cb for a failing, very expensive player, and on top of that, a classy striker by investing 14,5m a year. we're saving the same amount and have one wc striker less.

i'm out of words, really.

You're out of words because you miss the whole point of this operation.

As Calcioefinanza has calculated, this deal will have a positive impact of 41,5m€ for Juve on the balance sheet for the season 18/19. And that without the 36m that Milan will have to pay a year later + getting rid of Higuain's salary won't just have positive impact on the books for 18/19, but for the following years as well.

This deal isn't about Milan. No cares about Milan, it's a club in shambles. Next year they will have to panic sell Romagnoli or Donnarumma, if they miss the CL and even with CL football, they might be forced to sell because of a looming punishment from Uefa.

http://www.calcioefinanza.it/2018/0...-higuain-gli-impatti-sui-conti-di-milan-juve/

 

[Hust]

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Oh.

 

[s4tch]

You're out of words because you miss the whole point of this operation.

As Calcioefinanza has calculated, this deal will have a positive impact of 41,5m€ for Juve on the balance sheet for the season 18/19. And that without the 36m that Milan will have to pay a year later + getting rid of Higuain's salary won't just have positive impact on the books for 18/19, but for the following years as well.

i was superficial indeed. but calcioefinanza also repeat those rumors that say the higuain deal is a loan with option. in case milan won't buy higuain next summer, we're dealing with the same issue - eg. higuain's high amortization and high salary - again, but with an older player with an even lower market value. so these numbers are only valid for 1 single year, a short-term solution for a mid-term issue.

at least we're rumored to offer bonucci a 3-year contract.

btw cash flow and balance sheet are two different things.

 

[edgardavids2608]

i was superficial indeed. but calcioefinanza also repeat those rumors that say the higuain deal is a loan with option. in case milan won't buy higuain next summer, we're dealing with the same issue - eg. higuain's high amortization and high salary - again, but with an older player with an even lower market value. so these numbers are only valid for 1 single year, a short-term solution for a mid-term issue.

at least we're rumored to offer bonucci a 3-year contract.

btw cash flow and balance sheet are two different things.

But the loan reported is 18 mil from what I was looking at. If they pay his salary this season and have him on the loan we will be fine. If hes worth 55 now then next summer surely we could get 30 for him

I really dont want Caldara leaving though unless somehow we include a way to buy him back or that we use this freed up 40 mil to go get SMS or Pogba and then sell a little bit and wrap this crap up

 

[MikeM]

Ok so basically Marotta upgraded to Higuain 2 years ago. Risky move. Didn't really work. Then this year he saw the chance for Ronaldo. Took it.

Now he has to dump Higuain. No one wants him. Has to give him to Milan with Caldara. Only paid 18M for Caldara but it's still collateral damage.

Is it worth it to sign Ronaldo still? Yes, absolutely.

 

[Seven]

that means that milan is getting a younger, already very good cb for a failing, very expensive player, and on top of that, a classy striker by investing 14,5m a year. we're saving the same amount and have one wc striker less.

i'm out of words, really.

Muh Caldara

 

[Juliano13]

Ok so basically Marotta upgraded to Higuain 2 years ago. Risky move. Didn't really work. Then this year he saw the chance for Ronaldo. Took it.

Now he has to dump Higuain. No one wants him. Has to give him to Milan with Caldara. Only paid 18M for Caldara but it's still collateral damage.

Is it worth it to sign Ronaldo still? Yes, absolutely.

It's worth it if only because we are dumping Higuain. That money could have been spent much better though.

 

[MikeM]

It's worth it if only because we are dumping Higuain. That money could have been spent much better though.

Well it's obvious no one wanted him. We had no choice but to attach Caldara, clearly.

It's like a little bit of damage on the rocket you're sending to Mars. Because we're banking on Ronaldo increasing our appeal to heights we've never seen. This Caldara thing could be meaningless in 2 years.