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[KB824]

Do you think selling bonucci has weakened the defence

That is a good question. If we are talking about pure on the ball defending, then no. However, his strength to his defense is something that certainly could have been used today, which is the ability to get the ball out of dangerous situations on his own with his feet. We missed that today. I don't know how much it would have helped in the end, but that was missing today.


And Rugani must either be absolute shit, or he did something to piss Allegri off, not to start ahead of Barzagli.

 

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[dolph]

This is the summer where the management cannot allow this club to be Milan from 4-5 years ago, hanging on to the old guard past their sell by date.

It is time to bite the bullet and bring in some fresh blood throughout the entire squad, even if it knocks us back a peg next season. I see these reports about contract extensions for certain players, and all I can think about are those Milan squads.

And that scares me.

Rather take a step back for a season and build a new young team, than just have keep doing what we are doing and steadily decline.

Time for the management to make some hard decisions.

 

[Boksic]

Can't expect to compete with the giants if you sell your best players every summer.

 

[KB824]

Can't expect to compete with the giants if you sell your best players every summer.

This year we actually didn't sell our best player.

For the first time in a few summers, anyway.

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Rather take a step back for a season and build a new young team, than just have keep doing what we are doing and steadily decline.

Time for the management to make some hard decisions.

They can't put this off any longer. Maybe they were feeling that they could catch lightning in a bottle for this year. That bottle is empty now, and this summer has to be some massive changes to the starting XI. Buffon, De Sciglio, Khedira, Chiellini, and basically anyone over the age of 30 bar Higuain should not be starting.

 

[Ventus]

That is a good question. If we are talking about pure on the ball defending, then no. However, his strength to his defense is something that certainly could have been used today, which is the ability to get the ball out of dangerous situations on his own with his feet. We missed that today. I don't know how much it would have helped in the end, but that was missing today.


And Rugani must either be absolute $#@!, or he did something to piss Allegri off, not to start ahead of Barzagli.

Both Juve and Bonucci are worse without each other. Ever since the latter left, our defence hasn't be right and neither has he. There is no point denying it.

 

[KB824]

This could be a summer akin to 2010-11, where the goal is to bring the average age of the starting XI down dramatically.

 

[Mark]

That is a good question. If we are talking about pure on the ball defending, then no. However, his strength to his defense is something that certainly could have been used today, which is the ability to get the ball out of dangerous situations on his own with his feet. We missed that today. I don't know how much it would have helped in the end, but that was missing today.


And Rugani must either be absolute shit, or he did something to piss Allegri off, not to start ahead of Barzagli.

I don,t get it...if he played Benta then you can play Rugani.

 

[KB824]

Both Juve and Bonucci are worse without each other. Ever since the latter left, our defence hasn't be right and neither has he. There is no point denying it.

On most nights, Juve are not worse off, at least to the point where it kills them.

This night , however, happened to be one of them.

 

[Ventus]

On most nights, Juve are not worse off, at least to the point where it kills them.

This night , however, happened to be one of them.

Dude, no offence, but you've been blinded by garbage Serie A is. Fact is our defence was exposed against Barcelona, Real and Tottenham, far too easily. Whenever we came up against a really good team with a bit of pace it got exposed.

 

[JuveJay]

Meh, bit of better individual play and this thread would have no bumps. We don't have a Ronaldo and won't have any time soon. I blame Salas.

Defenders defend and attackers score and the general performance is fine. Shit happens.

 

[Boksic]

Both Juve and Bonucci are worse without each other. Ever since the latter left, our defence hasn't be right and neither has he. There is no point denying it.

First half vs Milan was prime example of this. Juve couldn't keep the ball or pass from the back. Bonucci on the other hand was spraying some excellent passes but Milan did nothing with them.

Although I don't think Bonucci would make a huge difference tonight and if available I would prefer Benatia.

This year we actually didn't sell our best player.

For the first time in a few summers, anyway.

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But we did sell two of our best players in Alves and Bonucci.

 

[MikeM]

What? The 4-4-2 worked well today. Two personel errors, three including Dybala’s red card, was decisive. Nothing to do with the formation.

We conceded within 3 minutes. We were open from the first whistle. You can't give up an away goal within 3 minutes.

 

[JuveJay]

Dude, no offence, but you've been blinded by garbage Serie A is. Fact is our defence was exposed against Barcelona, Real and Tottenham, far too easily. Whenever we came up against a really good team with a bit of pace it got exposed.

Which is some going for such a defensive team.

 

[KB824]

Dude, no offence, but you've been blinded by garbage Serie A is. Fact is our defence was exposed against Barcelona, Real and Tottenham, far too easily. Whenever we came up against a really good team with a bit of pace it got exposed.

Which is why I said "on most nights" it doesn't hurt them.

I never implied, either directly or indirectly , that this was the only time that Bonnucci not being there has hurt us.

 

[JuveJay]

We conceded within 3 minutes. We were open from the first whistle. You can't give up an away goal within 3 minutes.

Yeah, almost nonsense to talk tactics and formations when you concede in sleep mode, it disappears.

Nothing irritates me more than early goals conceded, ruins everything.

 

[KB824]

First half vs Milan was prime example of this. Juve couldn't keep the ball or pass from the back. Bonucci on the other hand was spraying some excellent passes but Milan did nothing with them.

Although I don't think Bonucci would make a huge difference tonight and if available I would prefer Benatia.



But we did sell two of our best players in Alves and Bonucci.

And Barcelona sold Neymar.

In the end it really doesn't matter who you sell, but who you replace them with.

Barca is actually a prime example of doing it correctly.

 

[Hust]

And Barcelona sold Neymar.

In the end it really doesn't matter who you sell, but who you replace them with.

Barca is actually a prime example of doing it correctly.

Easy to do that when you sell one guy for 220m.

 

[Ventus]

And Barcelona sold Neymar.

In the end it really doesn't matter who you sell, but who you replace them with.

Barca is actually a prime example of doing it correctly.

Barcelona have Messi though. Talent that comes once every 20 years, therefore they have the assurance to have at least one world class player to build a team around. Juventus have got some really good players too, but none in the bracket of Ronaldo and Messi.

 

[Cerval]

Invest in defence and midfield, both needs a overhaul

 

[dolph]

We conceded within 3 minutes. We were open from the first whistle. You can't give up an away goal within 3 minutes.

Again not a formation thing, but a personel blunder, or lack of communication between MDS, Costa and Bentancur.