If it helps anything, we haven't beatn Lech Poznan either in the last decade, despite meeting them twice.
Also, stop praising Bayern ffs
Also, stop praising Bayern ffs
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So they are better because they won in overtime? Yes 5 years ago They were the best team in the world and clearly better than us but in the last 4 years that doesnt really hold up. We have knocked off Barca last year and Madrid 3 years ago and were a minute short in Munich. I just dont see what makes us some 3rd tier team just because we havnt beaten them head to head in the last 4 years
I guess thats where we differ. You think a team that hasnt won it ib 6 years is in the same tier as Madrid and Barca which im not so sure about. I dont think we are either but they are in a different league which starts with transfers that quite honestly Bayern or us cant match so we are more strategic and build a team
Bayern and Barca are interchangeable for me over the last 5-6 years. Madrid a bit ahead due to multiple CL titles.
We're a slight bit below that tier still, maybe going by the past 3 years only, we could be on that Bayern-Barca level, but 3 years is too short to judge if we have staying power and can actually win a CL in the next couple years. A CL title before 2020 places us firmly in the top tier of the decade.
Sadly, we know how our story always ends in the CL.
I think we are on par with Barca and Munich at this point. If anything Munich willl see a big decline once Robben and Ribery are finished. They are 33 and 34 respectively. James was a good signing but he wont be able to do what Robben does for them in terms of one on ones. It was a mistake to sell Douglas Costa
I think Chelsea is a bit behind us along with United. We get better every year. I was proud to see when we were playing bad against Barca how we brought Higuain, Dybala, Douglas Costa, Cuadrado and Alex Sandro on at the same time.. Those are elite players and we were playing good with them in the last 30 min
I think Chelsea is a bit behind us along with United. We get better every year. I was proud to see when we were playing bad against Barca how we brought Higuain, Dybala, Douglas Costa, Cuadrado and Alex Sandro on at the same time.. Those are elite players and we were playing good with them in the last 30 min
if we talk about top teams in the last 5 years top1 is clearly Real, followed by Bayern and Barca, our 2 finals count little when measured up against the dominating style in which each of these teams cruised to a CL title in those 5 years, we probably come in 4th with our league dominance
if we talk about top teams right now, as in potential CL winners next season, I'd say Real>Bayern>=Juve>Barca. Whether Barca keep Neymar or not, much more important elements to their team like Iniesta and Mascherano are going downhill fast, also their goalkeeper is a disaster. Bayern are declining as well, but when I think who could challenge Real next year, they are the team that comes to my mind not Juve, so I put them slightly above us
if we talk about top teams right now, as in potential CL winners next season, I'd say Real>Bayern>=Juve>Barca. Whether Barca keep Neymar or not, much more important elements to their team like Iniesta and Mascherano are going downhill fast, also their goalkeeper is a disaster. Bayern are declining as well, but when I think who could challenge Real next year, they are the team that comes to my mind not Juve, so I put them slightly above us
How can we be behind Juventus if you talk about the last 5 years? In 2012 we reached the final, 2013 won a treble, 2014 SF, 2015 SF, 2016 SF, 2017 QF.
Also have in mind that Juventus didnt go far in the CL in 2012 and 2014 where we played in a final and SF. Not saying this to be arrogant or talk Juventus' achivements down, but if you compare the last 5 years its Real and Bayern, then Barca and Juventus.
If you talk the last 3 years (2015-2017), its Real Madrid, Juventus and Barcelona/Bayern Munich
Also have in mind that Juventus didnt go far in the CL in 2012 and 2014 where we played in a final and SF. Not saying this to be arrogant or talk Juventus' achivements down, but if you compare the last 5 years its Real and Bayern, then Barca and Juventus.
If you talk the last 3 years (2015-2017), its Real Madrid, Juventus and Barcelona/Bayern Munich
Winning a final is a success. But losing in the final is better than losing in the semi-final or losing in the group stage. Finishing second in the league is better than finishing 12th.In the last 4 years only 2 teams have won the Champions League, so by your logic everyone else is a failure and equally so. And Napoli and Roma have obviously been more successful than Inter in the last 4 years.
You are pretending like you have this super winner mentality, you only care about the title and everyone who says that reaching the final means something is a loser. In reality you have the loser mentality. Talking all the time how we far we are from the best and how we can't win the CL.
You are pretending like you have this super winner mentality, you only care about the title and everyone who says that reaching the final means something is a loser. In reality you have the loser mentality. Talking all the time how we far we are from the best and how we can't win the CL.
maybe it's just the language barrier, I dunno, I think we might agree in general, we just call things different. if your goal is to win the whole thing, success is 1st place. if you end up 2nd good for you, but don't call that a success, because ultimately you didn't achieve your goal.
we had a very good season, but we did not achieve our goal in Europe, whether the team that was stronger than us came at the quarters, semi's or final doesn't matter much to me, because it's all down to an old man picking this or that ball out of the bowl.
we had a very good season, but we did not achieve our goal in Europe, whether the team that was stronger than us came at the quarters, semi's or final doesn't matter much to me, because it's all down to an old man picking this or that ball out of the bowl.
