Albo

Senior Member
Apr 13, 2009
11,463
For sure. It was a great move getting rid of Vidal for 37m and then digging for scraps on last two days of mercato.
That fucking cunt wanted to leave , he asked to leave !
Yeah maybe we could have gotten 5m more but that's it, but yes Beppe should have gotten more for Llorente , and I didn't like Zaza deal,the rest of mercato was really good .

It's same fucking thing every year,in September people start bitching , and always they are proven wrong .
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
That fucking cunt wanted to leave , he asked to leave !
Yeah maybe we could have gotten 5m more but that's it, but yes Beppe should have gotten more for Llorente , and I didn't like Zaza deal,the rest of mercato was really good .

It's same fucking thing every year,in September people start bitching , and always they are proven wrong .
yes he asked to leave, but you're saying we should be a charity and give him to first team he asks for. if he fucking asks to leave then we can sell him to highest bidder. llorente for free is a travesty

the whole mercato is a sham, we've only gone backwards
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,043
That fucking cunt wanted to leave , he asked to leave !
Yeah maybe we could have gotten 5m more but that's it, but yes Beppe should have gotten more for Llorente , and I didn't like Zaza deal,the rest of mercato was really good .

It's same fucking thing every year,in September people start bitching , and always they are proven wrong .
:agree:
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
That $#@!ing $#@! wanted to leave , he asked to leave !
Yeah maybe we could have gotten 5m more but that's it, but yes Beppe should have gotten more for Llorente , and I didn't like Zaza deal,the rest of mercato was really good .

It's same $#@!ing thing every year,in September people start bitching , and always they are proven wrong .
Who cares if Vidal asked to leave... He's not the first player to desire to leave a team. He had 2 years left on his contract. We could have refused to sell him unless we first signed a CAM to replace him. Teams refuse to sell players all the time, even if they express a desire to leave.

Smart move = finding a replacement CAM before we agree to a sale.
Dumb move = selling without finding a replacement.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
That fucking cunt wanted to leave , he asked to leave !
Yeah maybe we could have gotten 5m more but that's it, but yes Beppe should have gotten more for Llorente , and I didn't like Zaza deal,the rest of mercato was really good .

It's same fucking thing every year,in September people start bitching , and always they are proven wrong .
What is there to be proven wrong really? As things stand and if we want to believe the reports, we were promised an attacking midfielder and we don't have one now. Are people speculating that we don't have that player and in fact we do and are being proven wrong? I don't understand what you mean bu that?

Or do you mean that people are saying that we will have a terrible season and get proven wrong? Because if that's the case, I haven't seen anyone say how things will turn out in the season, the complaints are about not completing the squad. I am sure most of us here with at least half a brain are well aware of the squad shuffle and it is damn hard to predict a thing until we see a few matches.

So no, until we see an official announcement of an attacking midfielder as promised NO ONE is proven wrong.
 

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,086
-we lost our most important player Tevez, the best b2b midfielder in the world Vidal and our playmaker Pirlo and replaced them with... well I'm not sure exactly what we replaced them with.

-we've given away Tevez and Llorente for free. Vidal for only 37m, Coman away on this very weird transfer. What is up with that?

-damn, we really, really got fucked in Germany. Stay away from that place in the future.

-I see no real vision, Beppe has been all over the place this summer. Still have no idea what formation fits us at this point.

-Lost way too many players this summer. Hopefully we've not lost the winning mentality with them.

-I did like the Alex Sandro and Dybala signings tho'. Its nice seeing Beppe spend big on players whole Europe wants and challenging them and not settle for players deemed as failures with their big teams all the time.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
Yeh they "fucked" Beppe because he refused to pay 35m for fucking Draxler , what's mire even funnier a lot of people (Including me) didn't want him here,now they are bitching because Beppe don't want to pay 35m :sergio:
Stop fucking defending the indefensible. He knew how much they wanted. If he wasn't willing to pay, then fuck off and find some other targets instead of haggling until the last moment.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
That fucking cunt wanted to leave , he asked to leave !
Yeah maybe we could have gotten 5m more but that's it, but yes Beppe should have gotten more for Llorente , and I didn't like Zaza deal,the rest of mercato was really good .

It's same fucking thing every year,in September people start bitching , and always they are proven wrong .
In Beppe's own words Vidal was also happy to stay, but I'm not going to bring that into the argument here. Let me for a minute agree with the fact that Vidal wanted to leave. What you're effectively saying here is, that on him expressing he wanted to leave, it was correct that we just agreed without going for a bidding war, and Beppe went to Munich in that week itself and sold him? When did this happen again? Middle to end July. What you're telling me, from then to now, the 30th August, where we not only undersold Vidal and missed out on the 5m you think we should've had for Llorente, alongside the 28m sale of Coman, it is ok not to have the AM that Allegri categorically asked for?

This is not even about Beppe not paying 35m for Draxler. This is about Beppe identifying Draxler as his core target and spending anywhere between 40 days and three months to not being able to close him, after himself proclaiming that money is not an issue. If Draxler is not worth 35m that is not Schalke's problem. It is Juve's problem, which Juve need to then rework and see what the true value of the player is to them given the alternatives or lack thereof. Draxler, I agree with you may not be worth the headache of what we are going through, but he is the target we have chosen to identify for our project, therefore the onus is on us to close the deal, without driving ourselves to a position of a panic buy, which is completely of our own making. Therein lies the failure of Beppe. When you yourself claim that there are few targets worthy of the club, the least you should do is not come to a position where you probably lose out on those too.
 

Albo

Senior Member
Apr 13, 2009
11,463
yes he asked to leave, but you're saying we should be a charity and give him to first team he asks for. if he fucking asks to leave then we can sell him to highest bidder. llorente for free is a travesty

the whole mercato is a sham, we've only gone backwards
As I know we refused to sell him to Man Utd,Arsenal but we sold him to Bayern , why would we do that unless Vidal himself "forced" this move,but yes I said we could have gotten 5m more but that's it.

Maybe we have gone backwards, because our most important players left , and Marotta tried to do his best to replace them , but as you already know it's hard to replace players like Tevez , only 2 players would replace him 100% are Aguero,Suarez and we can't afford non of them , so Dybala was good transfer he might turn to be great.

We tried to get an AM,but Goetze didn't want to come here,Chelsea won't sell Oscar,Isco costs to much , why would I blame Marotta ?

And yes I used to bitch about Marotta's transfers too,but his work made me shut the fuck up,and wait at least until January because I was wrong every summer, so I'll wait again , it's not the end of the world if we won't get an AM even if we need one , but last year we didn't have one,but we had great season .
 

Albo

Senior Member
Apr 13, 2009
11,463
Who cares if Vidal asked to leave... He's not the first player to desire to leave a team. He had 2 years left on his contract. We could have refused to sell him unless we first signed a CAM to replace him. Teams refuse to sell players all the time, even if they express a desire to leave.

Smart move = finding a replacement CAM before we agree to a sale.
Dumb move = selling without finding a replacement.
What I don't understand is what does Vidal's sale has to do with AM ?
Even before we sold him , Chelsea still would refuse to sell Oscar,Goetze wouldn't want to come here,Isco price would have been the same,I fail to understand what Vidal's sale has to do with AM ?

And I don't want to have unmotivated players here,I already said we could have gotten 5m more .

Vidal wasn't an AM,even if he played as one,and was really bad AM , yes he was great box to box , but I didn't like him as AM .
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
As I know we refused to sell him to Man Utd,Arsenal but we sold him to Bayern , why would we do that unless Vidal himself "forced" this move,but yes I said we could have gotten 5m more but that's it.

Maybe we have gone backwards, because our most important players left , and Marotta tried to do his best to replace them , but as you already know it's hard to replace players like Tevez , only 2 players would replace him 100% are Aguero,Suarez and we can't afford non of them , so Dybala was good transfer he might turn to be great.

We tried to get an AM,but Goetze didn't want to come here,Chelsea won't sell Oscar,Isco costs to much , why would I blame Marotta ?

And yes I used to bitch about Marotta's transfers too,but his work made me shut the $#@! up,and wait at least until January because I was wrong every summer, so I'll wait again , it's not the end of the world if we won't get an AM even if we need one , but last year we didn't have one,but we had great season .
:tup:

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Isco also doesent want to leave Madrid and they have no reason to sell so...
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
What I don't understand is what does Vidal's sale has to do with AM ?
Even before we sold him , Chelsea still would refuse to sell Oscar,Goetze wouldn't want to come here,Isco price would have been the same,I fail to understand what Vidal's sale has to do with AM ?

And I don't want to have unmotivated players here,I already said we could have gotten 5m more .

Vidal wasn't an AM,even if he played as one,and was really bad AM , yes he was great box to box , but I didn't like him as AM .
It really doesn't matter if you or anyone else liked him as an AM. He was our AM last year when we made the CL final. Our team clearly worked quite well with Vidal as an AM. I'm perfectly fine with us selling him, if we were to sign an AM that offers at least as much in the position as he did, perhaps more offensively and less defensively.

But to say the sale of Vidal is not linked to purchasing an AM isn't true at all. He was our AM. We sold him. We don't have an AM now. We're in need of an AM. If we had kept him we'd still have a player capable of playing AM. How is that anything other than directly linked?
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Seriously. How can people not see that Vidal played AM for us last year, and we sold him and therefore need a new AM. If we had kept him, we wouldn't be in such dire need of an AM. Since we sold him, we had to get an AM to replace him. We have failed miserably so far.
 

duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
8,799
It can't end like this. Selling coman instead of getting someone top. No more but less.

I aint a Marotta grouppie but there's not way he gonna let this happen (not getting a shlt).
 

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