PedroFlu

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I still can't believe certain people were saying Sabatini was a better transfer director than Marotta. :rofl:

Sabatini't last 6 signings:

Yanga-Mbiwa, Iturbe, Astori, Manolas, Ibarbo, Doumbia...

This winter transfer window, signing an injured Ibarbo, and an out-of-form and injury prone Doumbia. Great work. :rofl:

I'll defend the man.

Yanga-Mbiwa cost what, 7M? He's better than Ogbonna, who cost the double, in my book.

Manolas was a good buy. The guy is physically imposing, has a strong personality and is doing pretty well. Owned our strikers 10 days ago. Also cost less than Ogbonna.

Astori was bought to be the 4th defender. As a depth signing, I think it's OK, even though he is a limited player. The guy is on loan. If he made the compromise to buy the guy for 7/8M, it's bad business. If he didn't and he goes back to Cagliari, it's OK. Castan's injury fucked them in the ass.

Iturbe was signed for 22M. This is today the considered price of Berardi. It was a bet. I really wanted him here. He's been bad, but honestly he was improving when their shitstorm of this year started. He got lost in the shitstorm. The kid is 21, still has great potential and can't be ruled out yet. But it was an overpayment, of course. I still like the potential.

Doumbia - can't be evaluated yet. The guys numbers are great, he plays in a position they need and price was good. He just arrived in the mess that team is right now. Can't call it a failure just yet.

Ibarbo - that was an idiotic signing, almost Martinez style. But the guy is still on a loan. 2.5M + 12.5M. If he doesn't get bought it's ok.

But I have the impression that Ibarbo's signing has something to do with Nainggolan 2nd half. Cagliari are raping Roma for this guy, since his value today is easily 30M.

Also they loaned Destro out because he wanted to. They wanted to keep him. He didn't have enough playing time because of Totti. And Sabatini will always be a Totti hostage like everybody else at Roma.

Oh and they just signed Luiz Adriano on a free. I don't know the salaries, but it really seems to be a good one. The current CL top striker for free, to play in a position they really need - CF.
 

JuveJay

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More to the point though the timing and decision making on the part of Sabatini, in January in particular, has been nothing short of farcical.

Luiz Adriano is good but he isn't all that great, does he really improve on Doumbia or Destro on best form? He's CL top scorer because he's scored 8 of his total 9 goals against an embarrassingly bad CL-level team. Maybe he'll come and destroy the league, I'm sure he'll have a spell at some point because he's playing for the second strongest team, who are attacking and will give him lots of service, but he's a typical Roma signing.
 

PedroFlu

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Luiz Adriano strikes me as a Llorente type kind of signing. Good enough for 1 or 2 years, then you sell the guy and make some.

While Totti is there, no CF will play regularly.. they can't fully invest on the position.
 

JuveJay

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They do need more depth, but that is mostly because of injuries. The Totti-Destro thing is a tactical choice, but does that also not affect Doumbia and Luiz Adriano? Totti could play behind either just the same as with Destro, it's not as if he doesn't spend most of the games plodding around midfield anyway.
 
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Roma have no signed adriano what are you guys saying. Also pedroflu you defend sabatini yet he has signed no better player than marotta has signed for us. The fact that people actually try to argue the point is stupid.
 

JuveJay

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Roma have no signed adriano what are you guys saying. Also pedroflu you defend sabatini yet he has signed no better player than marotta has signed for us. The fact that people actually try to argue the point is stupid.
I know they've not officially signed him but for discussion's sake next season, as it seems a pretty close move.
 

PedroFlu

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Totti as an AM is one less guy to defend in the midfield... it can't be done in current football. I think that's why Garcia is stuck into their stupid 433. He is obliged to start Totti, and the place where he hurts the team less is as some sort of false CF. He must have the possibility to play more advanced, keeping the midfield with 3 men defending.

Doumbia and Luiz Adriano will rotate with Totti, like Destro did. I don't think there will be a problem with them. But it's too many CFs there. They'll have to get rid of Doumbia somehow.
 

Post Ironic

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Doumbia was a shit transfer from any perspective. The guy missed 55 games due to injury in his last 2 seasons at CSKA. He scored a lot in a terrible Russian league, and had 1 good year in the CL back in 2011. He also doesn't fit the side as it's just replacing like for like with Destro, except now instead of having a young CF with potential to be very good, they spent all his transfer money on a "27 year old" CF that's injury-prone and way out of form.

Yanga-Mbiwa isn't better than Ogbonna. He's even worse, and that's saying something, because Ogbonna sucks. The Roma fans act like the end of the world is here when they see him starting. It was Saba's "shrewd" business that caused this too. Loaning out an exceptionally promising young defender in Tin Jedvaj, and giving Leverkusen the option to buy him for only 7mil. So now they lost one of the best young defenders out there for the same price they've paid to get the mediocre garbage that is Mbiwa.

Manolas is a decent buy, no more. He's error prone, and a hothead, and a card machine. He's also very poor on the ball compared to the man he's to have replaced, Benatia. Instead of spending 22m (which if one includes the agent fee is closer to 30m) on Iturbe, they should have bought someone a bit better than Manolas to replace Benatia.

Iturbe has no brain. He's fast, he works hard, and he seems like a nice kid... but he's brainless. Just like Gervinho. Useless signing for that kind of money. I liked him because he was a pacy winger, and wanted him here, but I was clearly wrong. He's shit.

Astori was a terrible signing. They should have kept ROmagnoli, as he's been better for Sampdoria than Astori has been for Roma. Astori has cost Roma several goals with his lousy positioning and marking.

Adriano isn't even signed yet, and he's never played outside the Ukrainian league. He scored 8 of his 9 goals against the worst team in the CL this year, BATE. He'll be another Doumbia.
 

PedroFlu

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Doumbia was a $#@! transfer from any perspective. The guy missed 55 games due to injury in his last 2 seasons at CSKA. He scored a lot in a terrible Russian league, and had 1 good year in the CL back in 2011. He also doesn't fit the side as it's just replacing like for like with Destro, except now instead of having a young CF with potential to be very good, they spent all his transfer money on a "27 year old" CF that's injury-prone and way out of form.

Yanga-Mbiwa isn't better than Ogbonna. He's even worse, and that's saying something, because Ogbonna sucks. The Roma fans act like the end of the world is here when they see him starting. It was Saba's "shrewd" business that caused this too. Loaning out an exceptionally promising young defender in Tin Jedvaj, and giving Leverkusen the option to buy him for only 7mil. So now they lost one of the best young defenders out there for the same price they've paid to get the mediocre garbage that is Mbiwa.

Manolas is a decent buy, no more. He's error prone, and a hothead, and a card machine. He's also very poor on the ball compared to the man he's to have replaced, Benatia. Instead of spending 22m (which if one includes the agent fee is closer to 30m) on Iturbe, they should have bought someone a bit better than Manolas to replace Benatia.

Iturbe has no brain. He's fast, he works hard, and he seems like a nice kid... but he's brainless. Just like Gervinho. Useless signing for that kind of money. I liked him because he was a pacy winger, and wanted him here, but I was clearly wrong. He's $#@!.

Astori was a terrible signing. They should have kept ROmagnoli, as he's been better for Sampdoria than Astori has been for Roma. Astori has cost Roma several goals with his lousy positioning and marking.

Adriano isn't even signed yet, and he's never played outside the Ukrainian league. He scored 8 of his 9 goals against the worst team in the CL this year, BATE. He'll be another Doumbia.

It's funny how I can agree with everything you said. I depends on how you see it. Hopefully you are correct.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Doumbia was a shit transfer from any perspective. The guy missed 55 games due to injury in his last 2 seasons at CSKA. He scored a lot in a terrible Russian league, and had 1 good year in the CL back in 2011. He also doesn't fit the side as it's just replacing like for like with Destro, except now instead of having a young CF with potential to be very good, they spent all his transfer money on a "27 year old" CF that's injury-prone and way out of form.

Yanga-Mbiwa isn't better than Ogbonna. He's even worse, and that's saying something, because Ogbonna sucks. The Roma fans act like the end of the world is here when they see him starting. It was Saba's "shrewd" business that caused this too. Loaning out an exceptionally promising young defender in Tin Jedvaj, and giving Leverkusen the option to buy him for only 7mil. So now they lost one of the best young defenders out there for the same price they've paid to get the mediocre garbage that is Mbiwa.

Manolas is a decent buy, no more. He's error prone, and a hothead, and a card machine. He's also very poor on the ball compared to the man he's to have replaced, Benatia. Instead of spending 22m (which if one includes the agent fee is closer to 30m) on Iturbe, they should have bought someone a bit better than Manolas to replace Benatia.

Iturbe has no brain. He's fast, he works hard, and he seems like a nice kid... but he's brainless. Just like Gervinho. Useless signing for that kind of money. I liked him because he was a pacy winger, and wanted him here, but I was clearly wrong. He's shit.

Astori was a terrible signing. They should have kept ROmagnoli, as he's been better for Sampdoria than Astori has been for Roma. Astori has cost Roma several goals with his lousy positioning and marking.

Adriano isn't even signed yet, and he's never played outside the Ukrainian league. He scored 8 of his 9 goals against the worst team in the CL this year, BATE. He'll be another Doumbia.
Not to mention their January Mr X signing - Spolli
 

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