Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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Quag was reliable? He was benched most of the season and not even included in the Euro squad. Vucinic had injury issues but would have easily been replaced by two new good signings.

The Pereyra signing is what pisses me off the most. It costs much, in a position we're pretty stacked and for a player who will not even make this team better. What is the point of having Vidal, Pogba, Pirlo, Marchisio, Asamoah, Padoin for 3 positions and on top of that adding Pereyra and Romulo? If we didn't have Pereyra or Romulo on this team nobody would blink an eye or panic and call for more midfielders.

We could have gotten Griezmann, Shaqiri and Evra and we'd be a much improved team, going directly at the root of the last few years problems. Instead, we do what Marotta does every year and add more players.
Quag and Vuci were reliable, experienced backup players. At least in the beginning of the season that was their role. In January we loaned Osvaldo due to Vuci's injury and other problems. Regardless of that, we needed at least one good player to replace them and I'm glad that we didn't bring some mediocre, aging player, ala Borrielo for that task. Currently we have 4 forwards, 5 with Coman, for the attack. We rejuvenated our forward line. That is a positive in my books.

As far as our midfielders are concerned, Asamoah will be utilized on the left, either as a LB, or LWB. Padoin isn't/wasn't reliable and was seldom used. That leave us with 4 players for 3 positions to cover. For a team that participates in 3 competitions, and has relatively high ambitions, we need little more than that. Romulo can be Licht's backup as well.

Shaqiri would be possible regardless of these signings if Bayern was willing to sell. We planned, if we go by Iturbe rumor, to spend 20-25m on a player of that caliber.

Griezmann was never an option.
 

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icemaη

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Aug 27, 2008
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We were pretty thin at CM last season. I'm glad we got another player to cover. It was pretty hard seeing Padoin as our only option off the bench.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
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We've spent a total of 50m this summer on shit we don't need. We could have gotten 1 or maybe 2 of those guys listed.

Stop drinking the kool aid year after year you 2.
Stop beeing batshit insane.

You want to transition to wingers at some point ? You'll need backup wingers.
You want us to have giovinco as only forward on the bench ?

Or are you a massive believer in Allegri ?


We can get no one of those listed players cause the wages and transferfee involved, would be far to high, and we'd leave holes in the team. Get the fuck over it, we try to sustain. We dont want to become milan and sell everything.

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Sanchez was available for 30 mil.before the world cup.His salary is another story.
:rofl:


You are the reason shit like goal.com has a reason to exist
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
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Yes he absolutely was available at that price but we were always trying to get him as much cheep as possible.So we started with 18 mil,then raised to 22 mil.Barca wanted 30 and that was the case.Then WC started and Arsenal paid 42 for him.He is one of the few players that Barca make a profit,bought him for 36 and sold him for 42.

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Stop beeing bat$#@! insane.

You want to transition to wingers at some point ? You'll need backup wingers.
You want us to have giovinco as only forward on the bench ?

Or are you a massive believer in Allegri ?


We can get no one of those listed players cause the wages and transferfee involved, would be far to high, and we'd leave holes in the team. Get the $#@! over it, we try to sustain. We dont want to become milan and sell everything.

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:rofl:


You are the reason $#@! like goal.com has a reason to exist
And you are the solid reason for all stupid and idiotic comments at this site. Stay with your expert analysis of Vidal's injury and make difference between muscle and ligament.Learn something about that.Check the things about the price of Sanchez before WC before writing bullshit like you always do.It is just unbearable amount of stupid things that you write on this forum.Stop.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
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Reading sites which claim that.More than two.Check Football Italia at least before WC.And other sites.How can I possibly know that other than this sources?I don't have a rat between our management.Sport internet sites are my sources.You have more accurate information about this issue?
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,055
I really don't know whether we presented such bid, but these aren't credible sources. People should avoid citing FI or Goal.com when it comes to transfers. These guys know as much as you and I. According to GdS Falcao is close to joining Juve. Basically one media outlet invents these news and others report it afterwards.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
Well I stated that my sources were those.If that sources are wrong than I am wrong .But on what ground you say that this informations are not accurate ?You have better source?
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,055
On a ground that in 99% of the cases their reports are false.

GDM is somewhat reliable, and he never reported that kind of bid from Juve. But he as well could be wrong.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Yes he absolutely was available at that price but we were always trying to get him as much cheep as possible.So we started with 18 mil,then raised to 22 mil.Barca wanted 30 and that was the case.Then WC started and Arsenal paid 42 for him.He is one of the few players that Barca make a profit,bought him for 36 and sold him for 42.

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And you are the solid reason for all stupid and idiotic comments at this site. Stay with your expert analysis of Vidal's injury and make difference between muscle and ligament.Learn something about that.Check the things about the price of Sanchez before WC before writing bullshit like you always do.It is just unbearable amount of stupid things that you write on this forum.Stop.
You really make this all to easy.

First of all, are you going to bring up the Vidal knee injury each time i'm proving you wrong on something ? And i actually wasent wrong, it was a minor injury, but chile playing him far to soon made his recovery quite the pain.

Secondly, only the idiotic website are reporting this "sanchez price before the worldcup" story. Any person that doesnt have a big shit for brain realises that selling a player before the worldcup where he can be put in a spotlight, is stupid beyond words.


Most stuff i write has some thinking into it. I'm critical and realistical. i'm not someone like you who believes the man with the long coat offering candy.

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Reading sites which claim that.More than two.Check Football Italia at least before WC.And other sites.How can I possibly know that other than this sources?I don't have a rat between our management.Sport internet sites are my sources.You have more accurate information about this issue?
FI is mostly quoting goal.com, sportmercatoweb, tuttosport and gazetta

All are sources that are eighter opinions written by idiots, or media who continiously pull stuff our of their ass

Are you that stupid you take those for facts ?


Seriously ?
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
Okay,it's your opinion with ,as you say 99% percentage.Opinion, not facts that you assume that these reports are false.Fine .It's your opinion.Not mine.I will stay what I think what was Sanchez price before WC.
 

jukazem

Senior Member
Feb 10, 2007
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Yes he was. Juve gambled on an early elimination of Chile at the hands of Spain and Netherlands, with hopes that it would lower his price. instead Chile knocked out Spain and Sanchez had a great world cup which spike clubs' interest in him, that's what put him beyond Juve. a player's price isn't constant, it depends on many conditions including player's performances at big tournaments and number of clubs interested.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
Their reports are 99 % are false?All of them not just FI,I am not mentioning Goal.com.And your personal opinion is valid ?Okay,think what you want about this issue .I will stand by my informations that Sanchez was available for 30 mil before WC.THey have the same agent with Vidal and he was eager to come to Juve.

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You really make this all to easy.

First of all, are you going to bring up the Vidal knee injury each time i'm proving you wrong on something ? And i actually wasent wrong, it was a minor injury, but chile playing him far to soon made his recovery quite the pain.

Secondly, only the idiotic website are reporting this "sanchez price before the worldcup" story. Any person that doesnt have a big $#@! for brain realises that selling a player before the worldcup where he can be put in a spotlight, is stupid beyond words.


Most stuff i write has some thinking into it. I'm critical and realistical. i'm not someone like you who believes the man with the long coat offering candy.

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FI is mostly quoting goal.com, sportmercatoweb, tuttosport and gazetta

All are sources that are eighter opinions written by idiots, or media who continiously pull stuff our of their ass

Are you that stupid you take those for facts ?


Seriously ?
Don't try to make stupid tricks like you always do.I am mentioning always Vidal's injury because you were writing lot of pages to explain the nature of his injury claiming that was a muscular problem and not a ligament injury.You were very authoritative claiming that idiotic and amateurish statement trying to convince the members of the forum of your trauma knowledge.Moronic.That's why I must always point out your bullshit.Don't mess with things that you don't understand.
And what is the problem if I think that we offer Barca 18 mil as a starting price which is true ? You have to write tirades of nonsense that all sites are wrong that claim that.Just you are right.Go and live in your world and fuck off from me.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,115
Yes he was. Juve gambled on an early elimination of Chile at the hands of Spain and Netherlands, with hopes that it would lower his price. instead Chile knocked out Spain and Sanchez had a great world cup which spike clubs' interest in him, that's what put him beyond Juve. a player's price isn't constant, it depends on many conditions including player's performances at big tournaments and number of clubs interested.
But the point still remains that Barca weren't going to sell before the World Cup.
 

PedroFlu

Senior Member
Sep 20, 2011
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We didn't want to let his agent to hold onto 30% of the contract. The altenative was to pay the sum above 30m, and that would be above our limits.
It would be just fine to do what Roma did. Payed 22M in 3 or 4 installments and let the agent keep the 30%. He was overpaid, yes, but so was Morata and Pereyra. Kid has WC potential and offers some athleticism we desperately need.

Marotta defiitely failed in that one.

I don't blame him for not getting Sanchez, Mandzukic or Griezzman. We can't really afford annual installments of more than 7/8M a year for a player, plus a big salary. I'm sure these guys were bought in at most 3 installments. The payment method is very important. Probably that's why we overpay for most players based in Italy.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
61,692
I see Zach is still going on about Chile ruining Vidal's knee, even though we played him injured before they did against Sassuolo when the league was already secured.
 

donpiero

Stella D'Argento
Jul 3, 2009
3,370
Their reports are 99 % are false?All of them not just FI,I am not mentioning Goal.com.And your personal opinion is valid ?Okay,think what you want about this issue .I will stand by my informations that Sanchez was available for 30 mil before WC.THey have the same agent with Vidal and he was eager to come to Juve.

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Don't try to make stupid tricks like you always do.I am mentioning always Vidal's injury because you were writing lot of pages to explain the nature of his injury claiming that was a muscular problem and not a ligament injury.You were very authoritative claiming that idiotic and amateurish statement trying to convince the members of the forum of your trauma knowledge.Moronic.That's why I must always point out your bull$#@!.Don't mess with things that you don't understand.
And what is the problem if I think that we offer Barca 18 mil as a starting price which is true ? You have to write tirades of nonsense that all sites are wrong that claim that.Just you are right.Go and live in your world and $#@! off from me.
:lol2: Stick it to him dude!
 

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