That's called building a team and the reason why we find ourselves at the top, 3 times champions with a lot of great players. Pogba alone could fetch us +70m, if we wanted to sell.
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That's what I actually said Red. Today it looks obvious, but it was not a no-brainer as many tend to think now. Pirlo really seemed to be washed up. He came with big salaries. It was a high risk high reward gamble. It was an absolutely crucial move to Juve's reborn.
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We need more posts like this. That extensiveness and great memory, instead of myopia.
thanks buddy 
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Sturaro looks overpaid, but not that much actually. It's a fixed 5.5M in 3 years. This makes a lot of difference. He was loaned out for Juve's own interest, they want to develop the guy in Serie A. As co-owns are gone, bonuses are the way to motivate loanee teams to play the players. Part of the bonus will only be paid depending on the performance of the guy for Genoa, another part depending on his performance for Juve.
If he ends a complete bust, we'll probably have paid 5.5M in 3 years for a young guy who will be loaned again to be developed. It's less than 2M/year investment, with a low salary guy. So the financial effort isn't that big in the end. If the guy is worth of Juve, 11M for a 21yr old Italian CM with potential with 2 Series A under his belt is quite understandable nowadays.
Morata was a very high gamble by Marotta, who gambled twice: to bet he will fulfill this 20M potential having played little in high level football; and that he won't want to go back to Madrid. He is definitely overpaid, but I want to wait to see his potential to have my definite say on it. If he has really stellar potential, this could be worthy.
Pereyra's price will actually be around 12M. Sorensen was surplus to requirements and his value to Juve is next to nothing. I agree it's too much, but I also want to wait to see him play to judge it better.
So far we definitely commited to spend 26.5M in this mercato, more or less the same amount we got selling players. 11M for Pereyra is due to next year.
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Well, I'm pretty sure Arsenal paid 40M for Sanchez upfront or in 2 installments at most. We can't do that. We can't cover that offer. Also Pereyra and Morata's salaries together are much less than Sanchez's. Salaries are as important as or even more important than transfer fees.
I really don't think we can blame Marotta for not getting Sanchez. He was just above Juventus possibilities.
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We need more posts like this. That extensiveness and great memory, instead of myopia.
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Sturaro looks overpaid, but not that much actually. It's a fixed 5.5M in 3 years. This makes a lot of difference. He was loaned out for Juve's own interest, they want to develop the guy in Serie A. As co-owns are gone, bonuses are the way to motivate loanee teams to play the players. Part of the bonus will only be paid depending on the performance of the guy for Genoa, another part depending on his performance for Juve.
If he ends a complete bust, we'll probably have paid 5.5M in 3 years for a young guy who will be loaned again to be developed. It's less than 2M/year investment, with a low salary guy. So the financial effort isn't that big in the end. If the guy is worth of Juve, 11M for a 21yr old Italian CM with potential with 2 Series A under his belt is quite understandable nowadays.
Morata was a very high gamble by Marotta, who gambled twice: to bet he will fulfill this 20M potential having played little in high level football; and that he won't want to go back to Madrid. He is definitely overpaid, but I want to wait to see his potential to have my definite say on it. If he has really stellar potential, this could be worthy.
Pereyra's price will actually be around 12M. Sorensen was surplus to requirements and his value to Juve is next to nothing. I agree it's too much, but I also want to wait to see him play to judge it better.
So far we definitely commited to spend 26.5M in this mercato, more or less the same amount we got selling players. 11M for Pereyra is due to next year.
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Well, I'm pretty sure Arsenal paid 40M for Sanchez upfront or in 2 installments at most. We can't do that. We can't cover that offer. Also Pereyra and Morata's salaries together are much less than Sanchez's. Salaries are as important as or even more important than transfer fees.
I really don't think we can blame Marotta for not getting Sanchez. He was just above Juventus possibilities.
In my book Barzagli was the most suprising and well made coup of all, like insanely so. Solely because of his extremely matured and improved version of him we got for basically nothing (super glad Fiorentina passed up on him after Palermo, would never gotten him from them), compared to not so good but ok defender I saw him as in his younger days. Pirlo free, Pogba free, Llorente, Tevez and Vidal low fees for their quality with all due respect, but they were all players to bring you hope for more and something to build up due to past quality showings or raw extreme potential (in Pogba's case), even if yes I disctinctively recall the naysayers on the Pirlo deal. But Barzagli, hot damn, what a fucking signing. I was frustrated when we signed him because he was oh so slow, error prone and bit inconsistent in Palermo (bit formidably promising in Chievo though). Instead we got this fucking calm and calculating beast of a defender since then.
i am sick of hearing about how instead of spending 40million on morata and whoever, we should have signed sanchez.
it doesn't work that way for a simple reason. the other clubs that can spend that money can go to a bidding war.
if juve had 40 million to spend, then madrid would start a bidding war, the then arsenal would outbid juve anyway. sanchez wouldn't cost 40 million, but 50 million or 60 million
i hope you unwashed peasants understand.
it doesn't work that way for a simple reason. the other clubs that can spend that money can go to a bidding war.
if juve had 40 million to spend, then madrid would start a bidding war, the then arsenal would outbid juve anyway. sanchez wouldn't cost 40 million, but 50 million or 60 million
i hope you unwashed peasants understand.
I wrote this exactly on several threads on this forum.The main thing is that Alegri is yes saying coach only ,he can't nearly motivate the players as Conte did.Also the main issue here is his authority over our star players.He kickc Pirlo,how do we expect Pirlo to be at his best.Yes,he is a professional but emotions are emotions.Tevez is also a problem.He was working like a mule under Conte and now he may go to Argentina to play golf with his uncle (like he did with Mancini).Very bad feeling at all.
I actually don't see the issue with Allegri being a yes-man really. It's not like Conte highly influenced the players that were bought in. he probably asked for a certain type of player and got the budget deals until he got fed up and left (nothing confirmed, just the most logical explanation in my opinion). So what would happen with Allegri is that he won't complain about what Marotta would bring him. And seeing how things are right now, Allegri has a very strong squad.
