Gianluigi Buffon (70 Viewers)

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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Because Woj is better than him already and a legend like that should know when it's time to quit instead of staying past his best and being played ahead of players who deserve it more because he has an obsession with winning the CL.
One, that's based on what? Two, a legend like Gigi should leave when he thinks he is no more capable of/eager about playing at a high-pressure worldclass level. Joining PSG doesn't suggest that.
 

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DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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I'm glad he's joining PSG as he'll still be playing at the top level of football. Much better than seeing him in a retirement league like the MLS or China.
Why? A retirement league would have made more sense to me. They pay good as well, and after two easy years you can go retire. He strikes me as one of those old guys who just can't let go. That said, i don't think we forced him out, but we might have given him a broad hint, and i don't mind that one bit. Would have been the perfect time to retire.
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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One, that's based on what? Two, a legend like Gigi should leave when he thinks he is no more capable of/eager about playing at a high-pressure worldclass level. Joining PSG doesn't suggest that.
What I'm worried of is if the players get tired of Juve and it looks like it these days, our success is still enjoyable for us fans but I feel like it gets redundant to players. Especially since we don’t have the means to invest and add quality which renews and enhance motivation to a club
 

icemaη

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Aug 27, 2008
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One, that's based on what? Two, a legend like Gigi should leave when he thinks he is no more capable of/eager about playing at a high-pressure worldclass level. Joining PSG doesn't suggest that.
The problem with being on top for so long is that you don't really know when to hang up your boots. Totti overstayed his welcome for example. There are a lot of examples in a lot of different sports. Buffon was shaky and sometimes downright average this season. With his advancing age he's going to get worse, not better. The club has to move forward and I'm glad he took the right decision.
Also, he himself was sure about retirement until PSG flashed the dough (+the slim chance of CL).
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
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icemaη;5745589 said:
The problem with being on top for so long is that you don't really know when to hang up your boots. Totti overstayed his welcome for example. There are a lot of examples in a lot of different sports. Buffon was shaky and sometimes downright average this season. With his advancing age he's going to get worse, not better. The club has to move forward and I'm glad he took the right decision.
Also, he himself was sure about retirement until PSG flashed the dough (+the slim chance of CL).
:agree:

We can't build a new generation with Buffon. His tiem was up.

Juventus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buffon
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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Why? A retirement league would have made more sense to me. They pay good as well, and after two easy years you can go retire. He strikes me as one of those old guys who just can't let go. That said, i don't think we forced him out, but we might have given him a broad hint, and i don't mind that one bit. Would have been the perfect time to retire.
Like i said before, i think agnelli was clear on him and told him to retire here and accept the managerial role. Buffon clearly wanted to continue in juventus, to be wojej bench at the very least. Agnelli didnt agreed to that because he thinks its time to look forward and renovate the keeper department. We all know how he was with del piero, and he is very sharp in this kind of things, even with legends. He would not let buffon pull a totti and retire whenever he pleased at the expense of keeper like wojej and perin.

On one hand, i can understand buffon wanting the moneu from france, but its disgusting anyways. For me it leaves a bad taste, and he should have used this perfect chance to retire. He is 40 years old, its about time.

And i hope he doesnt join them to aspire to win the CL. That is like a kick in the balls for juventus. And he should not be obsesed with that throphy. His career has been glittering even without it.
I hope he does the right thing and retires while joining either juventus management or the italy management together with mancini.

Parma would be cute but not an obligation. But this pSg thing is ridiculous to me and i do not support it.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
icemaη;5745589 said:
The problem with being on top for so long is that you don't really know when to hang up your boots. Totti overstayed his welcome for example. There are a lot of examples in a lot of different sports. Buffon was shaky and sometimes downright average this season. With his advancing age he's going to get worse, not better. The club has to move forward and I'm glad he took the right decision.
Also, he himself was sure about retirement until PSG flashed the dough (+the slim chance of CL).
By Buffon's standards yes, he had an average season (still some magnificent saves only a few goalkeepers in the world are capable of pulling). I'm not saying what I'm saying because Buffon is a Juve legend and I love him etc, but because I honestly believe he'd be still a safe option for us. I'd understand if he wanted to retire from the worldclass football, but it sure doesn't seem like that.

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:agree:

We can't build a new generation with Buffon. His tiem was up.

Juventus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buffon
Why don't you ever spell "time" correctly?
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
26,829
Like i said before, i think agnelli was clear on him and told him to retire here and accept the managerial role. Buffon clearly wanted to continue in juventus, to be wojej bench at the very least. Agnelli didnt agreed to that because he thinks its time to look forward and renovate the keeper department. We all know how he was with del piero, and he is very sharp in this kind of things, even with legends. He would not let buffon pull a totti and retire whenever he pleased at the expense of keeper like wojej and perin.

On one hand, i can understand buffon wanting the moneu from france, but its disgusting anyways. For me it leaves a bad taste, and he should have used this perfect chance to retire. He is 40 years old, its about time.

And i hope he doesnt join them to aspire to win the CL. That is like a kick in the balls for juventus. And he should not be obsesed with that throphy. His career has been glittering even without it.
I hope he does the right thing and retires while joining either juventus management or the italy management together with mancini.

Parma would be cute but not an obligation. But this pSg thing is ridiculous to me and i do not support it.
Bullshit. Agnelli gave him the choice, gave him the option to continue in a management role or to continue playing with us (even said so in the press conference)

It's Buffon's choice and he might haven taken into account Szczesny, I don't know.

What I know is that it's ridiculous to speculate on conspiracies
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
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Like i said before, i think agnelli was clear on him and told him to retire here and accept the managerial role. Buffon clearly wanted to continue in juventus, to be wojej bench at the very least. Agnelli didnt agreed to that because he thinks its time to look forward and renovate the keeper department. We all know how he was with del piero, and he is very sharp in this kind of things, even with legends. He would not let buffon pull a totti and retire whenever he pleased at the expense of keeper like wojej and perin.

On one hand, i can understand buffon wanting the moneu from france, but its disgusting anyways. For me it leaves a bad taste, and he should have used this perfect chance to retire. He is 40 years old, its about time.

And i hope he doesnt join them to aspire to win the CL. That is like a kick in the balls for juventus. And he should not be obsesed with that throphy. His career has been glittering even without it.
I hope he does the right thing and retires while joining either juventus management or the italy management together with mancini.

Parma would be cute but not an obligation. But this pSg thing is ridiculous to me and i do not support it.
This. Well put.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Like i said before, i think agnelli was clear on him and told him to retire here and accept the managerial role. Buffon clearly wanted to continue in juventus, to be wojej bench at the very least. Agnelli didnt agreed to that because he thinks its time to look forward and renovate the keeper department. We all know how he was with del piero, and he is very sharp in this kind of things, even with legends. He would not let buffon pull a totti and retire whenever he pleased at the expense of keeper like wojej and perin.

On one hand, i can understand buffon wanting the moneu from france, but its disgusting anyways. For me it leaves a bad taste, and he should have used this perfect chance to retire. He is 40 years old, its about time.

And i hope he doesnt join them to aspire to win the CL. That is like a kick in the balls for juventus. And he should not be obsesed with that throphy. His career has been glittering even without it.
I hope he does the right thing and retires while joining either juventus management or the italy management together with mancini.

Parma would be cute but not an obligation. But this pSg thing is ridiculous to me and i do not support it.
You are SO weird :D
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
You wrote a story with full-blown characters based on your imaginations and the plot got more and more incoherent as it went
What i say is clearly my opinion, is not a fact, but to say it is incoherent is an insult to me. I dont know where you get this idea, as ill try to justify what i said just for the sake of your comment.

-If Buffon was ready to retire, he would have done it in Juventus, willingly and by letting us know like on midseason without any issue. That doesnt happened. At the beggining i believed he didnt announced it to not attract unnecessary attention and instead let everyone to focus on the team and the competitions. But what im seeing now suggest otherwise.

- Buffon himself said he was offered a managerial role, so this means NO role as a player. This option clearly came from Agnelli/Elkann themselves. For this option to be true, they both had to agreed to do not let buff continue playing. You do not offer a managerial role to a player you are willing to continue letting play, i think this is obvious. This is also backed up by how the del piero saga was managed, in the sense that when Agnelli/Elkann say is enough, is enough. It doesnt matter if you are Buffon or Del Piero.
We can even theorize that maybe they are seeing the chance to sign Perin this summer and they cant have the 3 of buffon perin and wojek together, so the obvious choice (purely at a manager POV) is to let the older player go.

-On Buffon´s side: I think he really is in love with this team and would have continued playing until he was not able to continue physically. But there is a margin on this decition, as he could continue playing maybe for who knows, maybe 2 more competitive years? Maybe Agnelli was not going to wait for him to take that chance. I also think that Buffon is really having a hard time leaving football and accepting his age. IMO he is having the same problems Alex had when leaving Juve, as he was not ready to retire and wanted to continue here but the board decided otherwise.

-Then the PSG offer: If its true they are giving him that paycheck, i think we cant blame him to not at least think about it. Its a lot of money for a 40 year old keeper, more than anything he won in Juventus even on his prime. But i dont see Buffon as a mercernary or moneygrabber. If he accepts this, is because he really wanted to continue playing football and was not mentally ready to retire. He should be willing to had a go at the CL once again. But in the end, i think all of this could simply be the result of him having some fear in hanging his gloves and going out of his comfort zone which is to play football. Still, it would be disgusting for me to see his glorious face on that filthy club.
 

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