Gianluigi Buffon (107 Viewers)

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Maybe that's the problem. We are too formal and presentable for this competition, we get ran over and take it on the chin time and again.

If this happened the other way around it would be like the football world suddenly stopped spinning on its axis, you'd never hear the end of it. Ronaldo would still be flapping his arms about as I type.
Definitely, I think we will look and speak a little differently in the future
A little less respect and a bit more anger, probably what is needed
 

ADP1897

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Apr 17, 2014
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Apologize, and probably the rest of world will see you as a true gentleman, or as a grownups throwing tantrums.

Or, don't apologize, and staying as a club symbol.
I'd like him to not apologize, he did congratulate madrid, even hug ronaldo,.. so he's already done his part as a gentleman.

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BayernFan

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Apologize, and probably the rest of world will see you as a true gentleman, or as a grownups throwing tantrums.

Or, don't apologize, and staying as a club symbol.
I'd like him to not apologize, he did congratulate madrid, even hug ronaldo,.. so he's already done his part as a gentleman.

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You can still apologize for the words you said if they were way out of line, and then still make it clear you didnt agree in the descision of the ref.
 

ADP1897

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You can still apologize for the words you said if they were way out of line, and then still make it clear you didnt agree in the descision of the ref.
He shouldn't i'm pretty sure the rest of the world will judge him as a grownup throwing tantrums.. Better leave it be, it's also a dodgy decision, and heated moment.

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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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The comments from Buff were obviously bad, but right at the same time. Bad in a diplomatic way, but ffs, it was daylight robbery.

DP is "right" about we should not be bringing incidesnts from other games... but come on.... right now is pretty clear that referees are being biased towards madrid... bribe or no bribe....its clear to be seen that theres a clear tendency to make calls in their favour when shit gets real.

Del Piero is taking the diplomatic way, but there is obviously more behind this to say we should not cry in short words.

How much more time we need to play the gentlemen roles and the good guy role? I think everyone here is fucking dead tired of getting red cards against real madrid. Lets stop pretending for a second that everything is fine and "this is football".
:agree:

We've received 4 red cards against Madrid in the past 7 matches. The most justifiable was last night, the Buffon one, but that came on the back of rewarding an obscenely soft penalty in the 93rd minute. The ref expects our Captain is just going to react calmly to that?

The Dybala diving yellow and subsequent red in the first leg was absurd, especially considering Real Madrid were allowed to dive all over the pitch in both matches, especially yesterday.

The Cuadrado yellow in the final, while the match was likely already lost, down 3-1 in the 83rd minute, was another joke, considering it was a very obvious Sergio Ramos dive, which coincidentally if the dive was carded would have been his second yellow and sending off.

And the Chiellini straight red for this was the most laughable of all.


3 of the 4 red cards against Madrid have been complete rubbish. It's not a conspiracy. Just shit refereeing in favour of the big stars.

Of course Buffon, Chiellini, etc have every right to be pissed off.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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I know 99% of posters here are Juve fans so there will be bias. I dont really have a problem with Buffon actions on pitch. Its not like Buffon is known for these type of antics. It was last min pen in a game where we had just come back from death. It was human nature behavior.

Also its funny to read how this affects his legacy or smth. Look Zidane is coaching and considered possibly one of the all times both as a player and manager now. But everyone who saw 2006 WC know what happened there. Yet you dont see people giving him less respect for that.

However emotions got the better of Buffon in the press. He should not have said ref has trashbin for heart. Even if be continues Uefa might give Buffon a heavy suspension. Also what does he mean with that. That the ref should feel sympathy and make decisions based on that and the fact Buffon hasnt won CL?
 

ADP1897

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I know 99% of posters here are Juve fans so there will be bias. I dont really have a problem with Buffon actions on pitch. Its not like Buffon is known for these type of antics. It was last min pen in a game where we had just come back from death. It was human nature behavior.

Also its funny to read how this affects his legacy or smth. Look Zidane is coaching and considered possibly one of the all times both as a player and manager now. But everyone who saw 2006 WC know what happened there. Yet you dont see people giving him less respect for that.

However emotions got the better of Buffon in the press. He should not have said ref has trashbin for heart. Even if be continues Uefa might give Buffon a heavy suspension. Also what does he mean with that. That the ref should feel sympathy and make decisions based on that and the fact Buffon hasnt won CL?
He meant olives should learn to read the situation better, at 93 minute, you just shouldn't give a pens for 50/50 call..

More over in the knockout stage, the decision on 1st leg also affected the 2nd leg.

If cuadrado doesn't get any pens at more relaxing times, why the fuck vasques should get one at min 93 with 20 second left?

I know it's a different refree, but they should atleast learnt from the 1st leg, didn't they? It just stupid decision, even some spainish (not only barcas fan; pundit; and newspaper) claimed it was a mistake.

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Stephan

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How many games will he be suspended in CL if he continues.

If he calls ref trashbin then that could result in further ban. I think red card is one game on its own right?
 

ADP1897

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How many games will he be suspended in CL if he continues.

If he calls ref trashbin then that could result in further ban. I think red card is one game on its own right?
Depends, did he actually said that when he got red card, or on interview? I don't actually give a fuck if uefa want to give a 5 match ban, we will manage with woj.

After so many favoritism, juve finally have a hope to pull a legendary comeback. Ref didn't actually do his job too, ronaldo and carvajal diving all over the place ffs..

All i want to say is Gigi deserves to vent his anger, even for further ban, especially since it possibly his last CL match.

I really feel for Gigi and Chiellini, and i'm not even the one fighting on the field, and i think most of you also feel the same way.

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Hydde

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:agree:

We've received 4 red cards against Madrid in the past 7 matches. The most justifiable was last night, the Buffon one, but that came on the back of rewarding an obscenely soft penalty in the 93rd minute. The ref expects our Captain is just going to react calmly to that?

The Dybala diving yellow and subsequent red in the first leg was absurd, especially considering Real Madrid were allowed to dive all over the pitch in both matches, especially yesterday.

The Cuadrado yellow in the final, while the match was likely already lost, down 3-1 in the 83rd minute, was another joke, considering it was a very obvious Sergio Ramos dive, which coincidentally if the dive was carded would have been his second yellow and sending off.

And the Chiellini straight red for this was the most laughable of all.


3 of the 4 red cards against Madrid have been complete rubbish. It's not a conspiracy. Just $#@! refereeing in favour of the big stars.

Of course Buffon, Chiellini, etc have every right to be pissed off.
Exactly. We tried to man up in the past and say that this things happen. But i think there should be a limit. I measn, how many more cards will be enough to do something?. What if after this game we get 3 times straight eliminated by real because of pens and red cards? Where is the line where is right to be gentlemen and then is enough?

Buffon did something funny.. but hey, anyone would have acted the same after all what he as endured against this fuckers.

All those reds were stupid as hell, obvious referees are just waiting something to happen to please real and be heroes in their little moment.

VAR is needed,,, it will not solve the problem because there always be a Byron Moreno waiting his paycheck but at the very least puts more pressure on the culprits.
 

X Æ A-12

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99% of the time I am against players losing their cool and letting their emotions get the best of them (particularly when they play for a team I support). Regardless of what has happened you're a professional and are supposed to toe the line as acting out NEVER seems to help the situation.

Given the context, this is in the 1% category.

And there is absolutely no comparison between this and the Zidane situation. Zidane's was moronic, he fucking assaulted someone, if he did that off the pitch he could've been arrested. Someone saying hurtful words to you is not an excuse. No comparison whatsoever to voicing dissent.

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:agree:

We've received 4 red cards against Madrid in the past 7 matches. The most justifiable was last night, the Buffon one, but that came on the back of rewarding an obscenely soft penalty in the 93rd minute. The ref expects our Captain is just going to react calmly to that?

The Dybala diving yellow and subsequent red in the first leg was absurd, especially considering Real Madrid were allowed to dive all over the pitch in both matches, especially yesterday.

The Cuadrado yellow in the final, while the match was likely already lost, down 3-1 in the 83rd minute, was another joke, considering it was a very obvious Sergio Ramos dive, which coincidentally if the dive was carded would have been his second yellow and sending off.

And the Chiellini straight red for this was the most laughable of all.


3 of the 4 red cards against Madrid have been complete rubbish. It's not a conspiracy. Just shit refereeing in favour of the big stars.

Of course Buffon, Chiellini, etc have every right to be pissed off.
I'm curious when the last time a Real player received a red card in the Champions League was. And I don't mean in some 6th game of the group stage, they've already secured top spot situation but like a crucial moment when it actually would hurt their progress in the competition.
 

Post Ironic

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99% of the time I am against players losing their cool and letting their emotions get the best of them (particularly when they play for a team I support). Regardless of what has happened you're a professional and are supposed to toe the line as acting out NEVER seems to help the situation.

Given the context, this is in the 1% category.

And there is absolutely no comparison between this and the Zidane situation. Zidane's was moronic, he fucking assaulted someone, if he did that off the pitch he could've been arrested. No comparison whatsoever to voicing dissent.

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I'm curious when the last time a Real player received a red card in the Champions League was. And I don't mean in some 6th game of the group stage, they've already secured top spot situation but like a crucial moment when it actually would hurt their progress in the competition.
I had to look it up, but last Real Madrid red card in the CL was Ramos in the group stage against Galatasaray in November 2013.

I'd assume the last one that hurt them significantly was the Pepe-Dani Alves incident in CL semifinal that they spent weeks crying foul over, claiming conspiracy, UEFAlona, etc. Mourinho went bonkers.
 

X Æ A-12

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I had to look it up, but last Real Madrid red card in the CL was Ramos in the group stage against Galatasaray in November 2013.

I'd assume the last one that hurt them significantly was the Pepe-Dani Alves incident in CL semifinal that they spent weeks crying foul over, claiming conspiracy, UEFAlona, etc. Mourinho went bonkers.
I remember that. Funny enough we were in that CL group too and it looks like by that point they had already mathematically secured qualification too :p

Bizarre how a team with Sergio Ramos, Marcelo and Casemiro defending can go so long without a single red card.
 

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