Gianluigi Buffon (113 Viewers)

Lion

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Jan 24, 2007
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I'm not talking about their shirt numbers.
ok joking aside let me tell you why he is number 1

longevity. buffon has been a world class player since 2000 till about 2017-2018. this is an insane consistency rivaled only by the likes of ronaldo and messi. even other keepers like casillas and kahn had shorter careers as top footballers. now you can argue that del piero also had a long career, but i am talking about being one of the best for a long time. and del piero doesn't even come close.

brand appeal. buffon has bigger name in world football than del piero.

leadership. buffon was a better leader than del piero.

impact. buffon due to being world class for longer, had a bigger influence on juventus' success than del piero

trophies. buffon won more trophies as a key player than del piero.

can you tell me what del piero was doing when he was 39? he was playing in india. want to know what buffon was doing? playing in CL final

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just to be clear. i am not questioning del piero being anyone's favorite player. del piero was reason i started following juve.

but buffon is def the bigger legend
 
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JuveJay

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Imagine a 17 year old keeper doing this now and keeping a clean sheet against a team like that Milan and players the calibre of Weah, Baggio, Albertini, Boban et al. As Zoff said, his personality and quality were amazing for a debut at that age.

He'd be worth €40m based on that one game alone.
 

Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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ok joking aside let me tell you why he is number 1

longevity. buffon has been a world class player since 2000 till about 2017-2018. this is an insane consistency rivaled only by the likes of ronaldo and messi. even other keepers like casillas and kahn had shorter careers as top footballers. now you can argue that del piero also had a long career, but i am talking about being one of the best for a long time. and del piero doesn't even come close.

brand appeal. buffon has bigger name in world football than del piero.

leadership. buffon was a better leader than del piero.

impact. buffon due to being world class for longer, had a bigger influence on juventus' success than del piero

trophies. buffon won more trophies as a key player than del piero.

can you tell me what del piero was doing when he was 39? he was playing in india. want to know what buffon was doing? playing in CL final

- - - Updated - - -

just to be clear. i am not questioning del piero being anyone's favorite player. del piero was reason i started following juve.

but buffon is def the bigger legend
Nope. Del Piero is the Mr. Juventus.

Buffon is definitely our 2nd greatest legend tho, no doubt.
IMO his legacy surpassed Platini, Boniperti, Scirea and Zoff..
 

JuveJay

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Yashin introduced a lot of the goalkeeping techniques you see today. Also a brilliant shot-stopper in a time when the ball was basically a rock. His agility was superb and he also saved a lot of penalties. But keepers were quite small then - Yashin himself was just over 6' tall. Our great goalkeeper Combi from the 30s was only 5'8". Planička, another great, the same. Up until the 60s it was common for keepers to be up to about 6'1", but the game was based a lot on shot-stopping and agility.

If you can innovate a position then it's difficult for anyone who follows to equally claim a position as the greatest.

It's interesting to see how being an ice hockey goaltender would impact on his agility and reaction times, as well as techniques and style. Much the same way that Peter Schmeichel incorporated handball techniques into his goalkeeping, like his 'spread eagle' charge against onrushing attackers.

Buffon was not an innovative keeper, but he has always had perfect fundamentals in pretty much everything, and a big personality to go with it. I think this and levels of concentration are equally what make a great goalkeeper. His penalty saving might only be a 7/10 but that's an art form in its own right. Average keepers can be expert penalty savers.

When you look at modern goalkeeping you'd suggest that Buffon's passing from tight areas but not be up to scratch for an elite keeper, but he's adjusted pretty well. He was an outfield player up until fairly late in his youth, but you can't re-train a style at 35+. I always remember in the early 90s when the back-pass rule was introduced, a few big keepers struggled because suddenly they had to kick a moving ball under pressure.

Now goalkeeping has become about sweeping, kicking and shot stopping. Less teams play authentic wingers with crosses coming towards the 6 yard box, so there are a few more keepers being 6'1". Plus everyone deals with the high ball by punching, such is the advancement of the ball technology. But the keepers are still 6'4"+ in general, as the perfect keeper would have that aerial ability and reach as well as being able to kick and have great agility.
 

icemaη

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I remember a time (at least in Asia) where an outfield player would have to take the goal kicks because the goalkeepers were incredibly rubbish with anything to do with their feet.
 

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