Get ready to dislike America (3 Viewers)

[Oggy]

This guy is simply retard and nothing else, it's not his fault mother nature created him like that...

 

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[flieeeekke]

Two paragraphs through Erik's article I find a certain "Frank DeFord" ...So I decide to see who is this fellow.....


And this is the result

i can bet this guy voted bush...

 

[K10]

You obviously aren't watching it on Univision, the Spanish-language network. It makes ESPN look like the complete wannabes that they are.

I am now.

Hot girls on that channel too.

 

[swag]

I am now.

Hot girls on that channel too.

Oh, yeah!

So let me see the options for Americans watching the WC:

A) ESPN - with drowsy announcers who seem more like casual spectators than fans of the sport, and the sex symbol of the network is Tommy Smyth, who makes me want to throw a brick at my television...

OR

B) Univision - with Pablo Ramirez doing jazz riffs on player names, da crazy goal calls, a staff who live and die this sport, and hot chicks sporting cleavage strutting on the screen on a regular basis

Hmmm.... let me think... no hints from the audience, please...

 

[K10]

Oh, yeah!

So let me see the options for Americans watching the WC:

A) ESPN - with drowsy announcers who seem more like casual spectators than fans of the sport, and the sex symbol of the network is Tommy Smyth, who makes me want to throw a brick at my television...

OR

B) Univision - with Pablo Ramirez doing jazz riffs on player names, da crazy goal calls, a staff who live and die this sport, and hot chicks sporting cleavage strutting on the screen on a regular basis

Hmmm.... let me think... no hints from the audience, please...

they even had trinidadians playin their steel pan on the channel. They all seem to support the latin/caribbean nations too.

 

[mephiztopheles]

... It's really very simple why most of us nonsocialistic Americans will forever reject soccer...(Frank Deford)
does that mean most of the american players in germany are socialists:faq1: (not that i have anything against socialists)

 

[Layce Erayce]

... It's really very simple why most of us nonsocialistic Americans will forever reject soccer...(Frank Deford)
does that mean most of the american players in germany are socialists:faq1: (not that i have anything against socialists)

hyper.bole

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America isnt isolationist. We
are self reliant.

Had Soccer sprung
from the loins of one of our own, it would be
embraced like a little brother,
cherished like an old friend with benefits.

But Americans- personifying the proud, needing neither foreign cooperation nor aid, they reject a percieved attempt of cultural imposition.

We are Americans. We have written our own laws. Acquired our own wealth. We have formed our own armies, developed our own power. Used our own technology. Depended on our own resources. Tapped from our own inspiration. Formed our own culture. Defended our own borders. Protected our own people. Read our own newspapers. Watched our own movies. Driven our own cars. Cheered our own sports.

Can the same be said of the English? The Spanish? The French? The Germans? The Dutch? The Italians?

If we wanted this sport, we would have invented it.

And from this well the waters of contempt are drawn.

 

[Slagathor]

We are Americans.

And I'm Dutch. Hurrah.

We have written our own laws.

So have we.

Acquired our own wealth.

So have we.

We have formed our own armies, developed our own power.

So have we

Used our own technology.

So have we

Depended on our own resources.

Bullshit. Ever heard of oil?

Tapped from our own inspiration.

So have we

Formed our own culture.

So have we

Defended our own borders.

So have we, with the occasional setback. What's that? Oh right, Pearl Harbor, 9/11...

Protected our own people.

Define 'protected', I would argue the hard capitalist system of the US does anything BUT protect its people. If you're talking militarily: so have we.

Read our own newspapers.

So do we

Watched our own movies.

So have we

Driven our own cars.

So did we, now we drive just as international as you do. Japanese aluminum rocks! Hell yeah!!

Cheered our own sports.

And so did we, before football was introduced. Ringrijden, Skûtjesjilen, fierljeppen...

Can the same be said of the English? The Spanish? The French? The Germans? The Dutch? The Italians?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and who the hell cares.

 

[JCK]

Cheers int:

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Cheers int:

for being equally ignorant in priding in accomplishments he had no hand in?

 

[Slagathor]

for being equally ignorant in priding in accomplishments he had no hand in?

Where did I pride? Read, don't assume.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Where did I pride? Read, don't assume.

oh i got a good dose of "so have we" and "so do we"

 

[Slagathor]

oh i got a good dose of "so have we" and "so do we"

That doesn't imply pride, it states a fact. Such as:

Watched our own movies.

So have we

Now, I'm actually of the opinion that Dutch movies are terrible. But that's not the topic of discussion here.

 

[JCK]

for being equally ignorant in priding in accomplishments he had no hand in?

I sensed no pride in what he wrote.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

That doesn't imply pride, it states a fact.

hehehe a what?? now now Stuart Mill, the flow of ideas, and sense of rational process would disagree vehemently with your so called "fact"

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I sensed no pride in what he wrote.

may i suggest this essay: http://www.nhc.rtp.nc.us:8080/publications/hongkong/ryan.htm

 

[Slagathor]

hehehe a what?? now now Stuart Mill, the flow of ideas, and sense of rational process would disagree vehemently with your so called "fact"

And I would disagree with dear John Stuart Mill the same way I disagree with his idea of freedom of expression that was only to be limited as to prevent it from leading to direct harm. Sadly even when a man reads Greek masterworks in their native language before the age of ten, it doesn't grant him the privilege of being conclusively right.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

And I would disagree with dear John Stuart Mill the same way I disagree with his idea of freedom of expression that was only to be limited as to prevent it from leading to direct harm. Sadly even when a man reads Greek masterworks in their native language before the age of ten, it doesn't grant him the privilege of being conclusively right.

i think the essay "conclusively" addresses the issue you're welcome to read it if you have time

 

[Slagathor]

i think the essay "conclusively" addresses the issue you're welcome to read it if you have time

I only have the time to read the introduction and skim through some of the rest of it (I will read the rest later). I assume the following addresses what you think you read in my post:

"The thought was that pragmatism was disabled by its relentless emphasis on practicality and adjustment from giving a properly critical account of its relationship to the surrounding culture. "

If so, kindly clarify and point out exactly what it was that lead you to assume what it was you assumed.

I'm off, I have things to do, people to see.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I only have the time to read the introduction and skim through some of the rest of it (I will read the rest later). I assume the following addresses what you think you read in my post:

"The thought was that pragmatism was disabled by its relentless emphasis on practicality and adjustment from giving a properly critical account of its relationship to the surrounding culture. "

If so, kindly clarify and point out exactly what it was that lead you to assume what it was you assumed.

I'm off, I have things to do, people to see.

"Individuality is a social achievement; a merely biological identity is surely a gift of nature, and it is equally a natural fact that biologically differentiated individuals are also experiential centers which can come to reflect on and to own their specific streams of consciousness. But identity in any interesting sense is an accomplishment, and perhaps a pretty intermittent one."