[GER] Bundesliga 2014/2015 (9 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

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1 good season. Leading Serie B in scoring at the age of 22 isn't very impressive.

We're arguing with RUS here, so I try not to give him extra stuff to argue about

 

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[Juventino[RUS]]

1 good season? atleast 2 good seasons, and it's not like you don't know that for italians it's hard to settle in to life outside of Italy

 

[Post Ironic]

No, if i am the hasty one then who is Klopp in this situation? He has watched 72 matches of Immobile before he decided to sign him, i trust to Klopp's choice in this question

Klopp... the same guy who has now benched Immobile?

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We're arguing with RUS here, so I try not to give him extra stuff to argue about

True.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Couldn't Klopp be wrong in his evaluation of Immobile? Top coaches sign flops all the time.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Couldn't Klopp be wrong in his evaluation of Immobile? Top coaches sign flops all the time.

They doesn't spend 20 millions in Germany if they are not confident

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

They doesn't spend 20 millions in Germany if they are not confident

Dude, we've signed loads of expensive duds. From Martinez to Amauri. Barca has done it, Man Utd has done it. Is Dortmund the only infallible club in the world?

 

[Post Ironic]

1 good season? atleast 2 good seasons, and it's not like you don't know that for italians it's hard to settle in to life outside of Italy

At least 2 good seasons? The fact he was still playing in Serie B at the age of 22 is pathetic, his leading Serie B in scoring with 28 goals in 37 matches at 22 years old is not impressive at all.

In Serie B at 21 he scored 2 goals in 20 matches.

His first season in Serie A he scored 5 goals in 33 matches.

He had 1 good season. Last season.

He's been shit this season, thus far. Hence the reason Klopp has him sitting on the bench now, and rumours are rampant that they will try to offload him this summer.

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Dude, we've signed loads of expensive duds. From Martinez to Amauri. Barca has done it, Man Utd has done it. Is Dortmund the only infallible club in the world?

Rus is so blind. They spent 27.5 mil on Henrikh Mkhitaryan, and he's been a flop thus far too. Every transfer director is confident in their 20+ mil signings, it still doesn't mean they all pan out, regardless of it being Germany, Italy, Spain, England.

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Regardless, Dortmund seems to have figured out their attacking problems to some extent. If they get their backline a little more settled, we're in trouble!!!

 

[ALC]

Soon as Reus got back, they started playing like this. He is such an amazing player, one of my favorites.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

At least 2 good seasons? The fact he was still playing in Serie B at the age of 22 is pathetic, his leading Serie B in scoring with 28 goals in 37 matches at 22 years old is not impressive at all.

In Serie B at 21 he scored 2 goals in 20 matches.

His first season in Serie A he scored 5 goals in 33 matches.

He had 1 good season. Last season.

He's been shit this season, thus far. Hence the reason Klopp has him sitting on the bench now, and rumours are rampant that they will try to offload him this summer.

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Rus is so blind. They spent 27.5 mil on Henrikh Mkhitaryan, and he's been a flop thus far too.

It's a typical italian story, they don't trust to youngsters, for how many years you've been following calcio? What a noob

As for Henrik - he is good, in the current season every signle player of the BVB is underperfoming

 

[j0ker]

right conclusions is not your cup of tea

Glad to have you here to prove us all wrong.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

At least 2 good seasons? The fact he was still playing in Serie B at the age of 22 is pathetic, his leading Serie B in scoring with 28 goals in 37 matches at 22 years old is not impressive at all.

In Serie B at 21 he scored 2 goals in 20 matches.

His first season in Serie A he scored 5 goals in 33 matches.

He had 1 good season. Last season.

He's been shit this season, thus far. Hence the reason Klopp has him sitting on the bench now, and rumours are rampant that they will try to offload him this summer.

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Rus is so blind. They spent 27.5 mil on Henrikh Mkhitaryan, and he's been a flop thus far too. Every transfer director is confident in their 20+ mil signings, it still doesn't mean they all pan out, regardless of it being Germany, Italy, Spain, England.

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Regardless, Dortmund seems to have figured out their attacking problems to some extent. If they get their backline a little more settled, we're in trouble!!!

Will RUS admit he was wrong if they sell Immobile this summer?

 

[TrezJuve]

Soon as Reus got back, they started playing like this. He is such an amazing player, one of my favorites.

 

[Post Ironic]

It's a typical italian story, they don't trust to youngsters, for how many years you've been following calcio? What a noob

As for Henrik - he is good, in the current season every signle player of the BVB is underperfoming

Is this why we, as in Juventus (the biggest side in Serie A) start 21 year old Pogba, and 22 year old Morata?

You fail RUS.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Is this why we, as in Juventus (the biggest side in Serie A) start 21 year old Pogba, and 22 year old Morata?

You fail RUS.

The average level of the age of Juventus is 29 years old, we are the oldest team in the Serie A alongside with Atalanta, you clearly don't understand about what you are talking about

we are the oldest squad not only in Italy but in the europe too - Atalanta 29.4, Juventus 29, Man City 29.5, QPR 28.9

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Soon as Reus got back, they started playing like this. He is such an amazing player, one of my favorites.

I've always liked Reus tbh. He isn't always as consistent as he could be but he can be so classy.

 

[lgorTudor]

I've always liked Reus tbh. He isn't always as consistent as he could be but he can be so classy.

Yep. He is totally in the wrong place on the sinking ship of Dortmund..

 

[Post Ironic]

Soon as Reus got back, they started playing like this. He is such an amazing player, one of my favorites.

Nah. They had a couple bad games after he returned. 0-0 against Leverkusen and then a 1-0 home loss to Augsberg.

The clear catalyst of this improvement the last two games, was the switched frontline.

In the two prior matches that were losses, in attack they were playing:

Kampl--Reus--Aubameyang
Immobile​

and

Kampl--Reus--Grosskreutz
Immobile​

They switched that the last two matches to this:

Kampl--Kagawa--Reus
Aubameyang​

Reus is much better playing on the wing than as an AM, and Aubameyang is much better playing up front in this particular Dortmund side than out wide in support of Immobile. Kagawa, or Mkh if he returns to form works much better as the AM than Reus, and Kampl has been a pleasant surprise on the other wing.

The shift of Reus back to winger, and Aubameyang as lone striker has made a massive difference. Aubameyang is twice the forward that Immobile is. The shift has allowed for 3 goals and 2 assists the last 2 matches for Aubameyang.

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The average level of the age of Juventus is 29 years old, we are the oldest team in the Serie A alongside with Atalanta, you clearly don't understand about what you are talking about

we are the oldest squad not only in Italy but in the europe too - Atalanta 29.4, Juventus 29, Man City 29.5, QPR 28.9

Rus. The point, which you consistently fail to get, is that if Immobile was as talented and good as you make him out to be, we'd probably have brought him back and played him. We're playing Morata. We played Pogba. FFS, we played Pereyra frequently while he was 23 all this fall.

Get over it man. Immobile is a 10-20mil striker. We sold him for the most he'll ever be worth. That's a great bit of business.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Nah. They had a couple bad games after he returned. 0-0 against Leverkusen and then a 1-0 home loss to Augsberg.

The clear catalyst of this improvement the last two games, was the switched frontline.

In the two prior matches that were losses, in attack they were playing:

Kampl--Reus--Aubameyang
Immobile​

and

Kampl--Reus--Grosskreutz
Immobile​

They switched that the last two matches to this:

Kampl--Kagawa--Reus
Aubameyang​

Reus is much better playing on the wing than as an AM, and Aubameyang is much better playing up front in this particular Dortmund side than out wide in support of Immobile. Kagawa, or Mkh if he returns to form works much better as the AM than Reus, and Kampl has been a pleasant surprise on the other wing.

The shift of Reus back to winger, and Aubameyang as lone striker has made a massive difference. Aubameyang is twice the forward that Immobile is. The shift has allowed for 3 goals and 2 assists the last 2 matches for Aubameyang.

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Rus. The point, which you consistently fail to get, is that if Immobile was as talented and good as you make him out to be, we'd probably have brought him back and played him. We're playing Morata. We played Pogba. FFS, we played Pereyra frequently while he was 23 all this fall.

Get over it man. Immobile is a 10-20mil striker. We sold him for the most he'll ever be worth. That's a great bit of business.

you are too stupid to understand taht they don't give a chance to youngsters in the serie a, you will be loaned til death until you will not prove your quality, you wont get 1st squad football except late subs in the coppa tournament to show you to the world and to offload you much faster to some serie b side

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

RUS, what a failure

 

[Post Ironic]

you are too stupid to understand taht they don't give a chance to youngsters in the serie a, you will be loaned til death until you will not prove your quality, you wont get 1st squad football except late subs in the coppa tournament to show you to the world and to offload you much faster to some serie b side

So what you're saying is that we don't have a 21 year old and a 22 year old in our starting XI right now?