Gay Adoption (4 Viewers)

[X Æ A-12]

Who decides who deserves it? A polyginists will swear they do and so will one who practices beastiality. Even nambla thinks they deserve the rights that the average person does

...and here comes the typical "if homosexuals get rights then pedophiles will too" argument. Ridiculous.

 

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Who decides who deserves it? A polyginists will swear they do and so will one who practices beastiality. Even nambla thinks they deserve the rights that the average person does

To Kyle's logic, however, which I think was excellently distilled: it's not the same for bestiality or nambla, because the consent from a dog or a child cannot be considered equivalent to that of an adult human.

Of course, this gets into grey areas with mentally retarded adults. But I think the concept is pretty sound.

 

[IrishZebra]

CONSENSUAL SEX is sex in which you are not being coerced, manipulated, or abused.

A non-sentient animal cannot consent to sex.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Who decides who deserves it? A polyginists will swear they do and so will one who practices beastiality. Even nambla thinks they deserve the rights that the average person does

Those whose human rights are being violated, i.e. gays.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

CONSENSUAL SEX is sex in which you are not being coerced, manipulated, or abused.

A non-sentient animal cannot consent to sex.

Ok so stay with polyginists illegal in most countries. Who decides that's also not warrented the same rights

 

[Kate]

You have mental issues if you believe that then

I have mental issues if I think someone who has a fetish for horses should still be allowed the same rights as other human beings? Of course they should. Any instances of animal abuse should be dealt with in an appropriate manner, but they should not lose their rights simply because they have an issue whereby they sexualise animals. People with learning disabilities and mental health issues should be allowed their rights, too.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Those whose human rights are being violated, i.e. gays.

Its not a human right to have children outside of procreation so that premise is invalid

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I have mental issues if I think someone who has a fetish for horses should still be allowed the same rights as other human beings? Of course they should. Any instances of animal abuse should be dealt with in an appropriate manner, but they should not lose their rights simply because they have an issue whereby they sexualise animals. People with learning disabilities and mental health issues should be allowed their rights, too.

People fucking animals do not deserve the same rights as normal people. They shouldn't be allowed to marry or raise children

 

[swag]

I have mental issues if I think someone who has a fetish for horses should still be allowed the same rights as other human beings? Of course they should. Any instances of animal abuse should be dealt with in an appropriate manner, but they should not lose their rights simply because they have an issue whereby they sexualise animals. People with learning disabilities and mental health issues should be allowed their rights, too.

Thanks, Kate, for wording this better than I.

 

[Klin]

This thread is weird and goes nowhere.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Its not a human right to have children outside of procreation so that premise is invalid

Not everyone subscribes to the laws of Christianity or any other religion. And it's already okay for straight people "to have children outside of procreation".

 

[swag]

People fucking animals do not deserve the same rights as normal people. They shouldn't be allowed to marry or raise children

Here's where I disagree. Because you're putting conditionals on their human rights based on acts. Where do you draw the line? Felons cannot marry? People with too many parking tickets cannot have children?

 

[IrishZebra]

Ok so stay with polyginists illegal in most countries. Who decides that's also not warrented the same rights

Firstly, thank you for using Polygynous and not the sexist Polygamous

Marriage in most countries is a legally binding union of equal partners, polygany by it's very nature is not a union between equal partners. Morally I have no issue with it.

 

[IrishZebra]

This thread is weird and goes nowhere.

Kind of like an awkward indie girl.

 

[swag]

Kind of like an awkward indie girl.

Or Sheik's romantic life.

 

[Kate]

People fucking animals do not deserve the same rights as normal people. They shouldn't be allowed to marry or raise children

Dare I ask, who are "normal people"?

 

[swag]

Dare I ask, who are "normal people"?

Perfect people without sin, Kate.

 

[IrishZebra]

Dare I ask, who are "normal people"?

Straight people.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Straight Christian 3rd degree mason knight templars.

 

[swag]

Straight people.

Same diff.