Gay Adoption (7 Viewers)

[Azzurri7]

So we have two genders, I am with you on that. Why do you want to change the sexual orientation of certain people?

I don't want to make any changes, I just would like to see them practice what the world and universe has been practicing forever.

There are less people who attract themselves to the same sex than those people who attracts to the other sex. That makes it a norm.

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[IrishZebra]

Rab, have you considered what 'therapy' would do IF you are in fact born gay? It's won't be tantamount to torture. Try and think how you would feel if one of your siblings was systematically mentally abused.

 

[Klin]

Is straying from the norm necessarily wrong?

Not necessarily, no.

Perhaps, but one can make the same argument for sociopaths, manic depressives, and those that suffer from bipolar disorder.

And such people aren't allowed to adopt in those circumstances too.

 

[JCK]

I don't want to make any changes, I just would like to see them practice what the world and universe has been practicing forever.

Gays have been around since forever too, why do the changes now?

 

[Azzurri7]

Cases? As in sick homosexuals seeking help to become heterosexuals?

Nope. But there are some that wonder why they do have an erection while making out with a guys and not women. They seek answers for their un-answered questions on their minds and it's their right to ask a sexologists.

 

[Kate]

And such people aren't allowed to adopt in those circumstances too.

These people are not allowed to adopt because they are mentally unstable and more likely to either cause violence or neglect, so it's not the same.

 

[JCK]

Nope. But there are some that wonder why they do have an erection while making out with a guys and not women. They seek answers for their un-answered questions on their minds and it's their right to ask a sexologists.

Again focusing on male homosexuals, notice how you used erection? Lesbians do not get erection.

So after seeking the answers and are assured they are homosexuals, is there a process that changes them to heterosexuals?

 

[Enron]

And such people aren't allowed to adopt in those circumstances too.

People with bipolar disorder and manic depression go on to lead perfectly good lives have families and even adopt children.

 

[JCK]

Are people with epilepsy allowed to have children?

 

[Azzurri7]

Rab, have you considered what 'therapy' would do IF you are in fact born gay? It's won't be tantamount to torture. Try and think how you would feel if one of your siblings was systematically mentally abused.

That's the thing mate, my belief differs from yours, I don't believe there are born gays, I believe they chose to be. Is it proved that gays are born gays? By a proof I mean genetically??

Gays have been around since forever too, why do the changes now?

And that's why not only religious books forbidden it but also Science, philosophers etc were always against any male + male contacts or female + female sexual contacts. There's a reason and purpose of having 2 genders. It's how this nature works IMO.

 

[Klin]

So people who are left-handed have fucked up genes too? Because according to you the norm is defined by the majority and we all know that the majority of the people are right-handed. Shall we also treat left-handed people because they are causing chaos to that norm you speak of?

If you don't think that being attracted to opposite sexes is not the norm, than you are admitting that gay people are cowards.

These people are not allowed to adopt because they are mentally unstable and more likely to either cause violence or neglect, so it's not the same.

It's worse than being gay, yes, but for some it's still very much unstable to get parented by two fathers/mothers.

 

[Kate]

People with bipolar disorder and manic depression go on to lead perfectly good lives have families and even adopt children.

Exactly. And in my earlier post I was referring to those with very severe cases.

It's worse than being gay, yes, but for some it's still very much unstable to get parented by two fathers/mothers.

And for very many it isn't. So in a society where they are seriously lacking stable homes in which to place children, odds are that the child will grow up very happily with two parents of the same sex. I'm just thinking about the kids, man

 

[JCK]

And that's why not only religious books forbidden it but also Science, philosophers etc were always against any male + male contacts or female + female sexual contacts. There's a reason and purpose of having 2 genders. It's how this nature works IMO.

Where did science forbid it? Can you please show me ONE scientist that forbid homosexuality?

 

[Enron]

Are people with epilepsy allowed to have children?

So long as they stay away from strobe lights.

 

[JCK]

If you don't think that being attracted to opposite sexes is not the norm, than you are admitting that gay people are cowards.

You did not answer my questions

And would you please explain how did you come to the conclusion of cowards? I did not quite follow and I did not admit anything, I simply asked a couple of questions about your definition of "norm".

 

[Klin]

People with bipolar disorder and manic depression go on to lead perfectly good lives have families and even adopt children.

It obviously depends on the level of their respective depression.

 

[Enron]

It obviously depends on the level of their respective depression.

A revelation!

 

[JCK]

Nope. But there are some that wonder why they do have an erection while making out with a guys and not women. They seek answers for their un-answered questions on their minds and it's their right to ask a sexologists.

What would you do if your children came out homosexuals?

 

[IrishZebra]

That's the thing mate, my belief differs from yours, I don't believe there are born gays, I believe they chose to be. Is it proved that gays are born gays? By a proof I mean genetically??

Currently there's no less evidence than genetic alcoholism, but not enough to say 'proved' because psychology isn't isn't a real science yet. There is evidence that the mothers genes transfer homosexuality.

What I meant was imagine if you are wrong, just try, if we really are born that way, how would you feel knowing your sister or brother is being mentally fucked up? Hell, Imagine a guy mentally abusing your sister for no reason, her BF or whatever.

It obviously depends on the level of their respective depression.

SO what you're saying is you can't rule out people based on general stereotyping rather than individual merit?

 

[JCK]

That's the thing mate, my belief differs from yours, I don't believe there are born gays, I believe they chose to be. Is it proved that gays are born gays? By a proof I mean genetically??

So if they chose to be, why then afterwards go to a sexologist to seek answers? Or even better, why seek help to change?