Gastón Ramírez-AM/LW-Bologna (2 Viewers)

[khalidkassim]

I actually hope this isn't a smokescreen. This will be one of the first signings that actually keep to Marotta's original promise - finding young talented players and allowing them to grow here in to hopefully world class talents.. on low wages

Vargas or Ramirez? Vargas is stronger and way more experienced, Ramirez is slightly more technical and quicker. I would probably prefer Ramirez because we need the pace but he's way more of a risk than Vargas.

Listen i think it'll all come down to who can also provide cover for the left flank...taking a look at the right for a minute this preseason you'll notice krasic has been asked to attack but also defend in many situations...if ramirez can defend that would wonderful, but vargas is a more versatile player.

I would however prefer Ramirez for the fact that he'll grow and help Pasquato grow alongside him with sustainable competition alla barca (if you can even compare).

 

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[samy eljuve]

i like the look of this kid tbh....him and pasquato fighting it out for a starting berth wud help them both rather than vargas who wud be expected to start...plus we cud be more tactically flexible as hes not a pure winger

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

I would have no problems if we sign this guy instead of Vargas. Young, technically good, talented with plenty of potential.

 

[JuveJay]

If he's good enough for Bianconero_Aus he's good enough for me.

But please be aware that I'll blame you entirely if he is a big flop.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Hey cmon at least I'm not saying "fuck this guy, he's shit lets sign Hazard/Mata/Bale/Ribery". Optimism up in this bitch.

 

[JuveJay]

Realism as well

 

[Bianconero81]

We should try hard to sign Hazard though. I have a feeling we might regret letting both him and Neymar slip through in the future

 

[JuveJay]

Basically players like Dzeko, Agüero, Neymar and Hazard are in a similar boat. The talented ones playing for less prestigious clubs for less money than they could earn here. We could sign them in theory with the money we have, they would probably join us if we faced no competition, but there will probably always be competition for them now with the hoarding clubs around. We'd be in a strong position with CL football I think.

 

[tosh_rose]

get the best you can till August 31, then in January try to add one or two players where we lack competition or enough strength, finish third and next summer go for Hazard, simple as that.
Once we`re back in CL and can offer top football for the players, we`re automatically again on the same level as other top clubs in Europe, now we`re just not!

 

[BIG DADDY!!!]

Scarey thing is though finishing 3rd doesn't gurantee CL as we will have to go through the qualifying round and we could get drew against a top team.

Udinese ended up getting Arsenal and I wouldn't fancy our chances against them if it was us in their position.

Does anyone know if 2nd place in Serie A still gurantee automatic qualification this year?

 

[JuveJay]

Yeah I'm 99% sure it is.

 

[frzl]

yep. just like german bundesliga last season -> leverkusen finished second and they don´t have to play any qualifications round(s)

 

[Zacheryah]

Scarey thing is though finishing 3rd doesn't gurantee CL as we will have to go through the qualifying round and we could get drew against a top team.

Udinese ended up getting Arsenal and I wouldn't fancy our chances against them if it was us in their position.

Does anyone know if 2nd place in Serie A still gurantee automatic qualification this year?

thats because udinese got 4th

if you got 3 cl spots, and ur third, u are "protected" in the draw i tought

so we'd get a smaller team

 

[Maddy]

thats because udinese got 4th

if you got 3 cl spots, and ur third, u are "protected" in the draw i tought

so we'd get a smaller team

No. It has all to do with seeding depending on your coefficient. Look here: http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedcl2011.html

Had we finished 4th this season, then we wouldn't have been seeded, and would have met one of these teams in 4th round of qualification: Bayern, Arsenal, Lyon, Benfica or Villarreal.

In terms of third this year it's the exact same.

Juventus are currently the 43rd best placed team in Europe next year we will be even lower. Not promising for our CL-seed.

 

[Bianconero81]

Ouch! Only Benfica look/looked negotiable on that list.

 

[Ken]

Tough cookies, all of those teams are in a considerably better shape than us, Benfica being the weakest. Let's just get that spot first, take it from there.

 

[Zacheryah]

yeah, altho i see us becomming second after milan

 

[Hust]

Hey cmon at least I'm not saying "fuck this guy, he's shit lets sign Hazard/Mata/Bale/Ribery". Optimism up in this bitch.

Yeah I'm 99% sure it is.

That 1% just fucked everything up.

yep. just like german bundesliga last season -> leverkusen finished second and they don´t have to play any qualifications round(s)

 

[JuveJay]

If you said 99% it would probably change overnight to 1+2 places.

 

[Hust]

If you said 99% it would probably change overnight to 1+2 places.

What are you trying to say?