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Is D'Agostino to Juventus a good move?

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Bjerknes

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The problem is, Greg, is that age does matter when it comes to building a team. If we sold the likes of DC and Giovinco and kept the Legrottaglies and Cannavaros, we'd be forced into making more moves in the future in the transfer market. If we have good young players who can perform for us, I don't know why we'd want to deal them away so easily. With DC we could have a starter for a decade, as opposed to a Mellberg who could only start three or so.

It is indeed all about economics, and in my view it's in our best interest to keep the youngsters and have them play either as starters or as backups. I mean, after all, they are our players and don't have to pay insanely large transfer fees to have them play for us.

If they end up showing they're not worth having, we can send them away. But right now I don't see a reason to deal DC.
 

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Wages are a big point. The youth squad is good for filling holes and developing them while not breaking the bank with veterans.

But we've been fumbling with an underachieving midfield for two straight years now -- with too many wasted transfers to show for it. With Diego finally over and talk of D'Agostino, I feel like we're finally having the thinking we should have had in the board two years ago. Zanetti isn't getting any younger either.

DC is in a unique position in that we don't have a lot in his place, though. Molinaro is a dead-end as a starter, though, IMO, suitable as a backup. I wish DC could turn into the starter we need, but I haven't seen enough to convince me yet.

But the average age of the starters on this squad has to be significantly lower than it was when we were last winning titles. I am not as worried now about a continual replacement strategy as I was back then.
 
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swag said:
Wages are a big point. The youth squad is good for filling holes and developing them while not breaking the bank with veterans.

But we've been fumbling with an underachieving midfield for two straight years now -- with too many wasted transfers to show for it. With Diego finally over and talk of D'Agostino, I feel like we're finally having the thinking we should have had in the board two years ago. Zanetti isn't getting any younger either.

DC is in a unique position in that we don't have a lot in his place, though. Molinaro is a dead-end as a starter, though, IMO, suitable as a backup. I wish DC could turn into the starter we need, but I haven't seen enough to convince me yet.

But the average age of the starters on this squad has to be significantly lower than it was when we were last winning titles. I am not as worried now about a continual replacement strategy as I was back then.
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:thumbs: i gotta agree. I dont think DC is bad, but i really dont see him devolping that much to be WC. I would take this deal anytime to swap for D'Ago. D'Ago can give us the midfield we have been for so long demanding. With him and Diego we could have a solid midfield.
 
Elvin

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JuveYank said:
:thumbs: i gotta agree. I dont think DC is bad, but i really dont see him devolping that much to be WC. I would take this deal anytime to swap for D'Ago. D'Ago can give us the midfield we have been for so long demanding. With him and Diego we could have a solid midfield.
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Diegostino? :D
 
Nenz

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I can't really figure out whether DC is LB or LM. He's not really defensively sound enough to be a starting LB but despite his good crossing ability his future as a LM doesn't sound to likely. I'm not pinning to much hope to his back, Criscito is a young and better LB while Giovinco can play LM.
Its either, selling DC or Moli because we need backup and I don't really think that after this year we can say that DC is better at defending than Moli. So its really quite a pickle.
 
Lucky Luke

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Nenna said:
I can't really figure out whether DC is LB or LM. He's not really defensively sound enough to be a starting LB but despite his good crossing ability his future as a LM doesn't sound to likely. I'm not pinning to much hope to his back, Criscito is a young and better LB while Giovinco can play LM.
Its either, selling DC or Moli because we need backup and I don't really think that after this year we can say that DC is better at defending than Moli. So its really quite a pickle.
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Molinaro is a LB,25 and in the last couple of seasons he proved that he doesnt deserve to be a starter...maybe a back up and nothing more
on the other hand Criscito and DC both 22+ full of potential but totally different,Criscito can play as DL and DC and De Ceglie is a DL ML.

the point is,i want D'agostino because alongside with Camoranesi and Diego our midfield will look awesome...:)
but we mustnt sacrifice one of our best hot prospects as part of D'agos deal.
my dream Juve has Criscito and DC as left backs and theres no place for any Molinaros.sell him,release him I DONT CARE.DE CEGLIE MUST NOT LEAVE.
 
Nenz

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Lucky Luke said:
Molinaro is a LB,25 and in the last couple of seasons he proved that he doesnt deserve to be a starter...maybe a back up and nothing more
on the other hand Criscito and DC both 22+ full of potential but totally different,Criscito can play as DL and DC and De Ceglie is a DL ML.

the point is,i want D'agostino because alongside with Camoranesi and Diego our midfield will look awesome...:)
but we mustnt sacrifice one of our best hot prospects as part of D'agos deal.
my dream Juve has Criscito and DC as left backs and theres no place for any Molinaros.sell him,release him I DONT CARE.DE CEGLIE MUST NOT LEAVE.
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Exactly. What if Criscito is injured? Do we want a defending LB or an attacking minded LB/LM in his place?
I think after this year Moli showed he can defend quite well to be honest. Just don't let him cross. But I agree, if we can help it, he should never start.
 
Lucky Luke

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Nenna said:
Exactly. What if Criscito is injured? Do we want a defending LB or an attacking minded LB/LM in his place?
I think after this year Moli showed he can defend quite well to be honest. Just don't let him cross. But I agree, if we can help it, he should never start.
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Ranieri was afraid to use DC more as DL...he played 50% of his games as ML and the other half as DL...in siena he was the starting DL,and the same in the U-21...zambo was a MR...he turned out to be a world class DR/DL until 06.give some faith to DC,alongside Cannavaro he will learn a lot!Criscito and DC is the future...Molinaro is...nothing :claire:
 
noussa

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i just read la gazetta dello sport...De Ceglie will throw for co Owner ship and paolucci as full ownership in Udinese to get D' Agostino. Its Good deal and i hope its true considering gio and marchisio are staying at turin. We can search for good left back to replace DC though.
 
Lucky Luke

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noussa said:
i just read la gazetta dello sport...De Ceglie will throw for co Owner ship and paolucci as full ownership in Udinese to get D' Agostino. Its Good deal and i hope its true considering gio and marchisio are staying at turin. We can search for good left back to replace DC though.
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it wont happen...we will stick with Criscito and Molinaro...:shifty:
 

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Lucky Luke said:
Molinaro is a LB,25 and in the last couple of seasons he proved that he doesnt deserve to be a starter...maybe a back up and nothing more
on the other hand Criscito and DC both 22+ full of potential but totally different,Criscito can play as DL and DC and De Ceglie is a DL ML.

the point is,i want D'agostino because alongside with Camoranesi and Diego our midfield will look awesome...:)
but we mustnt sacrifice one of our best hot prospects as part of D'agos deal.
my dream Juve has Criscito and DC as left backs and theres no place for any Molinaros.sell him,release him I DONT CARE.DE CEGLIE MUST NOT LEAVE.
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If D'Ago joins, then i think he'll play alongside Marchisio and sissoko with Diego ahead of him. Camo really wont fit that midfield unless Ciro play tactics which requires a wide player on the right, which in same games he stated he will. But at his age, with his recent injuries...I think Camo is goign to be used more off the bench.

As for Dc, the club needs to decide before bringing in Criscito whether he is the player to keep. we cant have both, one will go backwards in development.
 
Lucky Luke

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Adrian said:
If D'Ago joins, then i think he'll play alongside Marchisio and sissoko with Diego ahead of him. Camo really wont fit that midfield unless Ciro play tactics which requires a wide player on the right, which in same games he stated he will. But at his age, with his recent injuries...I think Camo is goign to be used more off the bench.

As for Dc, the club needs to decide before bringing in Criscito whether he is the player to keep. we cant have both, one will go backwards in development.
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so ferrara will have the pleasure to choose between marchisio d'agostino and camo for the midfield...its time to forget tiago,poulsen etc....and that makes me feel great
 
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